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Horrific Attack

  

 

 

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On February 1, 2010 a Vallejo City worker was attacked by an angry mob of youth near Vallejo High School.  The ferocity of the attack was shocking and the injuries sustained by the victim were severe. 

 

The following Vallejo PD Press release contains links to video footage of the incident.

 

 

LINK to Press Release

 

The footage from the Mini Mart security camera is particularly disturbing.

The above image is from that video.  The victim is in red and was driving the backhoe.

 


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Where is the outrage?   |March.20.2010
Why are "community orgainzers" not loudly condeming this???
More Good Thinking   |February.15.2010
YES, Rattan Caning for ALL the kids captured on video in the City Worker beating.

Vallejo & Richmond Should Import Singapore Caning As Crime Deterrent Measure
http://www.topix.net/forum/source/vallejo-times-herald/TQBKLHP6RE502CEOG

momster   |February.04.2010
Yes she gave her opinion all right. She said she was bluh bluh from the Black Chamber of Commerce and gave us her card. Now when one person states their business and who they are affiliated with, that means they speaking in behalf of that mentioned department or business. She should of just acted as a concerned citizen, but I guess she's not that smart. Now if you are going to try to confront a group of people, first you might want to say is "hey, tell me about your project? Our community may be interested in something like this? What are your plans next?"

Don't get me
wrong, I like Havanna Sol; I do not think All African-Americans think this way.

But all she saw was a dark skinned Mexican painting a Mexican mural.
African-American Mother In Val   |February.04.2010
I am fed up with comments like Momster who has one episode with an African American person and proclaims racism for the entire A-A population. The person that you are referring to is just one person who happen to be a member of the Black Chamber of Commerce. She gave "her" opinion and not that of the Commerce or the rest of the A-A community. Yes we have people that are racists, just like the rest of the world's population. But don't try putting everyone into that same box.

To the Joe Allens of Vallejo, keep your racits remarks to yourself. Your ignorance is showing. I'm sure that
are those out there that feel the same about your mother having you. Not all A-A people are on welfare and sitting at home and raising knuckle head children.
Dialog Monitor   |February.04.2010
Joe Allen and Stuck in Vallejo, keep a civil tongue in your head. This isn't that "other" blog site. We can have a dialog without racist remarks or profanity.
stuckinvallejo   |February.04.2010
Bad News- you bring up an excellent point!!

Can't we start by circulating some sort of petition to remove a percentage of our section 8 and or welfare funding?

If not, doesn't section 8 have some sort of rules that those using it have to maintain a clean record and be complaint free?

Ugh! I am so fed up. I feel like I can't waste another minute of my day on all of this. I feel helpless.
Bad News   |February.04.2010
Brookings Institute studies find that cities with concentrations of poverty over 15% are unsustainable. This problem is caused by the City of Vallejo staff pursuing more and more Section 8 and poverty programs because staff gets an administration cut. Intintoli, DaSilva and the VHA beating the drums for this economic strategy have killed Vallejo.
stuckinvallejo   |February.04.2010
Can a city come together to legally vote out a mayor?

What in the hell is anyone in a position of power doing with all of this?

Joe Allen- nail on the head! Their mothers probably don't feel shame. They are too busy sitting at home sleeping,collecting welfare and breeding more shit.

Anonymous- I am confused by your "oh really" in response to or addressing?
Anonymous   |February.04.2010
Oh really. And where are all of Osby's churchgoers who crammed city hall defending his hatred of gays and reading ad naseum from the bible? Why aren't they, "marching in front of the high school right now to bring those thugs to justice."
joe allen   |February.04.2010
to call them thugs is a joke. they are just shit. shame on their mother.
OMG!   |February.04.2010
Well, yet another one! I feel like this is becoming a free for all in Vallejo. I wonder who will get shot or beaten tonight?

Were in the HELL is Osby? Sitting on his damn couch watching the news? Has he even addressed the city?

Mad as Hell- I couldn't agree with you more!!!!

I also love that the citizens in Vallejo will come out to protest gay marriage and not be out there marching in front of the high school right now to bring those thugs to justice.

What the hell is going on here?

Ingnorant morons.
Anonymous   |February.03.2010
This incident proves the obvious: No more GOBs for Vallejo Mayor. Osby, Intintoli, Curtola, etc., etc. proved they cannot run this town properly. Let's try a different approach.......

Poll: Which VIB person would you vote for Vallejo Mayor?
http://www.topix.net/forum/source/vallejo-times-herald/TJ26TG4ES9J5FIPP0

Anonymous   |February.03.2010
If there is ANYTHING that can be taken away, its SURVEILLANCE cameras.

And a big thank you to the concerned citizen who taped the beating on his/her phone. Filming it made them all stop and run. And good images to identify the thugs.

And Nichilini, get a clue: add surveillance cameras in areas where kids congregate (middle & high school).
Catch em on tape.
Mad as Hell   |February.03.2010
If this was reversed, whites attacking a black guy there would be outrage. they would riot in the streets wake up citizens of Vallejo.Take back your city and tell the mayor he needs to go to all his good ole church members and tell them that they need to get there kids in line and stop worrying about the gays in Vallejo, they brought the city up , its his people tearing it down.It is discusting,I will be writing to the NY Times about it, lets see what they think about it.Vallejo we be famous again for the wrong reasons(HATE)
momster   |February.03.2010
I grew in Vallejo with an Irish/Dutch mother and a Mexican father. I have never experienced any racism while growing up in Vallejo. I was lucky Vallejo was so tolerable in the 70s and 80s. In the last five or so years I have experienced so much racism toward the Mexican/Northern/Central Americans by Whites and Blacks not just in Vallejo but in other Cities. Just asked how artist Derrick O'Keefe was treated by a member of the Black Chamber of commerce when he painted Mexican mural on a Mexican owned store. This particular person showed a picture of herself with Osby Davis and and wanted to
know where were all the black people in the mural and black people do not like murals. The artist started naming the black murals in SF painted by black artist and she said, "the black people in Vallejo do like murals." This woman's son owns Havana Sol. How ironic.
xvallejo   |February.03.2010
Its is sad what is happening to Vallejo(the city of god), looks more like the city of hate and anger.I am so happy I got out.The mayor would rather have the thugs then the gays....
Anonymous   |February.03.2010
Vallejo On YouTube...Intergalactic Exposure!!!

White city worker brutally beaten by mob of Blacks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=692CH3BiISg

Anonymous   |February.03.2010
Video catches mob attack on city worker in Vallejo; $2,000 reward for suspect info
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_14324158?source=most_viewed

Vallejo labor union officials today doubled a reward for information leading to the arrest of suspects in the attack and robbery of a street maintenance worker Monday afternoon.

The Vallejo Police Department on Tuesday announced a $1,000 reward. The International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local 2376 has matched that amount, union president Frank Caballero said.

The incident has raised alarms about the safety of street maintenance
workers, housing officials, engineers and other city workers who are out in public much of the time.
Anonymous   |February.03.2010
Video catches mob attack on city worker in Vallejo; $2,000 reward for suspect info
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_14324158?source=most_viewed

VALLEJO
Anonymous   |February.03.2010
Vallejo On Huffington Post...Global Exposure!!!

Vallejo Beating: Surveillance VIDEO Captures Brutal Beating of CA City Worker by Youth Mob
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/03/vallejo-beating-surveilla_n_447879.html
Matt Mustards Alter Ego   |February.03.2010
Boys
Thanks for trolling on VIB and scaring the hell out of them.Keep telling them that if Vallejo doesn't cough up more tax money for our wages Vallejo will become a jungle of thugs.

Keep telling them that the VPOA is the victim,Police are leaving everyday to greener pastures(a little white lie never hurt), that we aren't overpaid and PolicePay.net is wrong about our total compensation.

If you can remind them not to vote for the repeal of Binding Arbitration.

10-4
Mattie
Anonymous   |February.03.2010
Vallejo On Breitbart TV - National Exposure!!!

Surveillance Video Captures Brutal Beating of CA City Worker by Youth Mob
February 3, 2010 at 1:10 pm - KGO
Dateline: Vallejo, CA
http://www.breitbart.tv/surveillance-video-captures-brutal-beating-of-ca-city-worker-by-youth-mob/

KGO: Police say the mob fractured his skull, broke his jaw and collarbone, and knocked several teeth out of his mouth. On top of it all, they went through his pockets and stole his wallet, all while people cheered in front of another camera from a bystander who shot video. Police have already identified several
suspects in the video, but they are also offering $1,000 for the arrest and conviction of any other suspects who took part in this mob beating.
armyoftherich   |February.03.2010
avatar sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
Inigo Montoya   |February.03.2010
avatar Around 2:30 this afternoon an ice cream vendor, Anarjit Kaur, was shot while driving her truck along Springs Rd near Castlewood Dr. She's in serious condition at John Muir Medical Center. I hope she recovers soon.

Images of Charles Bronson in Death Wish play in my mind...
J.M   |February.03.2010
Re: silasbarnabe, anon & Mr. ...You all have made very good valid points, we have much work to do. I really hope City leaders make an example of this & learn from it so it does not happen again.

I just came back from a determined, yet brisk walk with my dog and must say I love my neighborhood and do feel safe, just take things personal when it's in my backyard(literally). I hope something positive can be created out of all this & hope the city employee is recovering with no life threatening injuries.
Anonymous   |February.03.2010
Time for "Big Brother" -- RFID Smart Cards with GPS for all K-12 students.
That way, students can't lie as to their whereabouts during school days.
Should be easy then to identify who was where and what time when incidents happen.
No more games in Vallejo... time for tough action on these school thugs.
Mr. ;(   |February.03.2010
From the video it is not clear to me a jury would side with the back hoe operator. The operator makes a U Turn to confront the youths. He starts off by talking to them from the cab, but then jumps out and starts chasing people. At the end he seems to be returning to the cab but then jumps out and runs toward the fence, I assume to confront (corner?) someone. If a perpetrator is actually caught you might even see a self defense claim.

It is not clear to me a different police policy would have changed much.
anon   |February.03.2010
I don't buy that the worker was not at fault. I work for PG&E and stuff like rock throwing happens.

The employee made a bad situation worse, and was gravely hurt because of it. It is tragic.

He was on city time and had no business engaging with these thugs in the first place. If the City of Vallejo doesn't have a conduct policy for these situations, then Vallejo is neglegent. If the employee didn't follow policy, then we're not living up to our own standards.

Something is so rotten in this town that kids would do this and that our city employees unnessarily put themselves in danger.
silasbarnabe   |February.03.2010
avatar I must say I have been appalled at what this incident has revealed about racial tensions not just in our community but in the all communities where diversity exists across our country. For years I have seen incidents like this cause tempers to boil over. When the poster here "momster" revealed that the victim was Latino or Hispanic (I use both terms because either one or the other offends different Latino or Hispanic friends that I have) and not Caucasian, I could not help but notice the white vs. black hatred being expressed on that blog slow down considerably.

I would really love
to hear Kenneth Brooks opinion on this matter as I believe that there is deep rooted racist anger among all races in our nation ready to boil over at a moments notice. If we are going to fix todays problem we will most certainly all need to work together. We will need all races around this issue working together, and the start of this will be earning each others trust. Todays example of racial tension is a sure sign to me that we have a lot of work ahead to gain each others trust. Sprinkle this incident with an unscrupulous group of individuals that feel they can profit from the misery of our
community and you have what we have today a racial jihad egged on by those that seek to profit from our perceived safety.
J.M   |February.03.2010
This unfortunate event can clearly lead up to racial tensions if words are not directed or chosen appropriately. It is sad, City of Vallejo will suffer from yet another bad publicity occurrence(caught on camera). I do my best to defend & represent Vallejo in a positive manner, as well as act with prudence in adverse situations. It is overwhelming at times however...just overwhelming. I refuse to let the neighborhood go downhill however, even if it drains the positive spirit at times.

I don't believe city employee was at fault in this incident. City employees drive thru the
neighborhood conducting their business all the time via city vehicles, on foot, tractor, etc...it was not the best decision for the driver of the tractor to confront the juvenile-thugs & exit his vehicle. I would understand why the driver would come back; I personally would be appalled by these scatterbrained, nitwits acting in such dismay who don't seem to have any respect for society & our neighborhoods.

I have confronted many individuals in the area that I live for loitering, littering, speeding, speeding, obnoxioulsy loud, steeling and the list goes on...most are young juveniles and a
few grown ups. So, really tired of playing Police, but it seems to work in the meantime.

So, if I have this right, the driver of the tractor felt attacked, threatened, disrespected, assaulted by a nobody group of thugs and mischievous juveniles that are out of control in our beautiful city who don't have any remorse for the well being of others. I would have clearly jumped in there to help this city employee if I had too. So this opens a can of worms for all other types of discussions. Only a very small % of students in the area behave like animals! Just thought I vent a bit as I feel
this newer generation is out of control!!
Anonymous   |February.03.2010
"The thugs and losers in Vallejo may not read the paper but trust me, they are well versed in knowing how many officers are on any given shift at any given time- TRUST ME. As long as they know our police are fleeing, they will
continue to become more brave with their crimes."

And the VPOA and VPD take every possible opportunity to let the whole Bay Area know how many officers we have on duty, when and at what times, how many are leaving, how many are planning to leave. The "thugs and losers" are getting the info. they need straight from Chief Nichelini and the VPD on a
regular basis.

Bloody their noses is alive and well.
Sick and Tired   |February.03.2010
Showing leadership abilty and caring about this town are two different things. It seems to be nearly impossible to penetrate the powers that be in this town.

A group of us need to get togehter and figure out how to get more revenue into this city. The more money there is, the less afforable it becomes to those who don't actually pay to live here. I think we all know that the hard working blue collar people of vallejo aren't the ones causing these violence issues. It is the people that can live here for free off of our tax dollars and then hold us hostage with fear.

If it becomes less
fun for them to hang out all day then we have some fighting chance of getting our businesses back, our neighborhoods back, our parks back and most importantly- our schools back.
wondering   |February.03.2010
Sick and Tired you are correct except that they are not brave, but opportunistic. Ganging up on an individual in a pack mentality does not make you brave, it makes you predator.
Sick and Tired   |February.03.2010
Anonymous- The issue here IS that someone was attacked. That someone was attacked and that there is not enough officer presence to keep it from happening.
Also, that it will only continue to get worse unless we have competent officers and plenty of them to keep this from happening. Something that can't happen if we are laying off and asking people to take pay cuts.

The thugs and losers in Vallejo may not read the paper but trust me, they are well versed in knowing how many officers are on any given shift at any given time- TRUST ME. As long as they know our police are fleeing, they will
continue to become more brave with their crimes.
wondering   |February.03.2010
Ya I learned a lot. Do not drive your tractor in Vallejo. If your not black, your not safe when your in the presence of a large group of black people. Which means that sending your kids to any Vallejo school is a complete waste of time. I am waiting for someone to stand up and turn this all around on the victim and make look like it's his fault. The reason why this individual was attacked by a bunch young black people is the same reason why sun shines. Because thats what it does.
Firebug   |February.03.2010
avatar Hopefully everyone learned somethign for this, the perpetrators, the victim, and those that would attempt to exploit this act for financial gain.
Wondering   |February.03.2010
Anonymous answer the question. How does a city provide services to its citizens if you can not recruit or retain qualified employees with the pay and benefits that your willing to provide?
Anonymous   |February.03.2010
A human being has been attacked and injured by juveniles that felt disrespected when called out for throwing something at an individual. Never mind that they were brave and attacked him from behind, with a crowd watching and egging them on, however when confronted with a cell phone camera, they try to hide their faces and scurry away like a bunch of cockroaches, even two little runts on a bike!
That is the issue here, not what public servants are getting paid, how they got those outrages wages we complain about, given to them by people that can no longer be taken to task for those
decisions.

A City of Vallejo employee was injured in the course of his usual and customary work activities, two days ago.(Can you say Workers'Compensation, big time. It is called AEO/COE!)

Yet I do not see or hear a statement of regret, assurance to the injured party and the citizens of this city, etc. from this usually talkative opinionated,ad nauseam, "leadership", any of them!
If any of you have any leadership ability then show yourselves and make a statement that will assure me/us that you really care about this town!
momster   |February.03.2010
fyi: I know the victim. The victim is Hispanic and they shouted racial slurs at him. iT'S Terrifying when an adult can't scold a juvenile in Vallejo with out the risk of getting attacked.
Wondering   |February.03.2010
I also feel it's too bad that we have council members that have a personal hatred of the Vallejo Police Department that they bash them every chance they get. It is this personal vedette that prevents them from doing whats right by the citizens.
Wondering   |February.03.2010
Sick and Tired I cant agree more. Can anyone on this site or the three ladies on the council that demand police take less. Tell me how you can ask someone to work more and make less in a more hazardous environment. Because the city says we cant afford to pay the going rate, the free market will not accommodate the city. That is reality, those are the facts. If you think PG&E charges to much for there services, don't pay them. Then please blog back and tell all of us what recourse was taken. That is the same with the police department. Because we can not afford to pay for police services, crime
will not take a hiatus.
Sick and Tired   |February.03.2010
Sicker- you are right, no money is no money. I will give you that. Something needs to be done, I just don't know how you expect people to work as officers in the Bay Area for an uncompetetive salary. It is completely unrealistic.

The reason I am whining about other cities and what they have- well, that is because our officers can quit and go there, that is why it matters. Are you going to stay in a job that pays X when you can go and get the same job that pays Y? No, you'd be a fool.

It is very easy to say "take a pay cut" when it is not your money we are talking about. We
don't know what each officer's individual financial reasons are. All we know is that they do a job. Whereas there are plenty of other tax payer paid jobs that are not so easily measured in Vallejo.

I just think it is unfair to ask people to give something up when all they can see is those around them not making an effort. I think it is scary times for everyone, there are also no guarantees that it will fix our problem.

I personally think a bus out of town for every NON-Tax payer is the answer but I guess that is not allowed now is it?

There is no one in charge that is competent and
capable of stirring any sort of change. When was the last time Vallejo had a Mayor a a city councel that we could have faith in?

When was the last time that anyone employed by City of Vallejo encouraged new business to come here? We have plenty of undeveloped land, we have an undeveloped waterfront, we have empty car dealerships, we have empty stores and yet are we offering incentives for companies to come here and create revenue and jobs?

No one wants to do business here because of the crime and because our demographic doesn't support these types of businesses and because we can't
run this city properly.

This is much bigger than whether or not an officer makes what every other officer in the Bay Area makes!

All I am saying is that everyone is sitting around blaming the police when there are plenty of other places to look for reasons our tax payer dollars were not spent well.
Sicker   |February.03.2010
Sick and Tired, no money is no money. Empty is empty. And Vallejo's coffers are empty. It doesn't matter which stupid city officials promised what, when. The city can't pay officers 90 percent of their salaries for the rest of their lives after 50 or 55 years old. It just isn't realistic. And healthcare. Are you serious? Who gets free health care? Who? That's ridiculous.

Just because I want my taxpayer dollars to be spent well, doesn't mean that I'm giving the cops a hard time. I just want other services, too, for my money.

And stop crying about other cities. It doesn't matter what
other cities are paying. If Vallejo can't pay what other cities are paying, then the city can't pay it. Stop whining and get on with it. Or transfer to those other cities so we can hire behind you with people who want to change things for the positive here.
Sick and Tired   |February.03.2010
That was meant to be officers AREN'T one of them!
Sick and Tired   |February.03.2010
Anonymous- why in the world would VPD pay a portion of their medical, change their pentions and take less money in an economy like this? They are not overpaid!!!!!! My god! Get over it. Go do some research regarding other cities and their pay for officers. These men work dangerous jobs why is it up to them to take less money from a city that is not bankrupt because of shady dealings with city officials? Not to mention all the heat they are getting from citizens like you. Oh yeah, if you were in a position were you signed an employment contract that said you get this... and then you work
there for 10-20 years and someone wants you to take a pay cut- YEAH RIGHT!!!! No way. You act like they are officers in Saulsalito, this is VALLEJO, the officers here don't have easy jobs. How come no one ever mentions the City Manager that made over $300k to do what? Manage his own portfolio? How about all the other city jobs where people make more than they should to sit around and do nothing? The planning commision? Do we have one? If we do, they should ALL be fired. WAKE UP! If Vallejo wants to start saving money I can think of an entire list of city jobs they can start cutting and
officers are one of them!
Someone Else   |February.03.2010
From what I can see, the kids provoked the city worker and he turns the back hoe around and returns to the scene. He then gets out of the vehicle, confronts a number of kids, then attempts to return to his vehicle. He's attacked while his back is turned while getting in it.

What happened to him was awful, and these kids deserve to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. You can't however dispute that he opened himself up for attack. Why would any sane person exit a vehicle when people are threatening you? Let alone turn around to confront them in the first place?

You can
clearly see him chase some of the kids in the street (the guy in red/orange shirt). He was complicit because he responded in an aggressive, threatening manner. He behaved like a thug and the kids behaved like a thug, only they had safety in numbers.

All around this is bad. He should have reported the incident of the stone throwing to the police, reported it to his supervisors and let it be. At most, turned around and asked them why, but without getting out of the vehicle. Instead he provoked the kids, and was mugged and injured.

Both sides piss me off. Violent thugs and idiot
public servants.
Wondering   |February.03.2010
The Vallejo police including pay and benefits are now below the mid range for what is the average pay officers get for this area. How does the city retain and recruit qualified officers if we are not even competitive. On top of all that we have a higher volume of calls to the police department than anyone else per capita. Did anyone know that Vallejo dispatch receives over 70,000 calls per year. What can't be done is allow the city to dumb down the officers in regards to training. If this is done we could see an incident like the bart shooting.
Anonymous   |February.03.2010
So, Truth, what is it you expect us citizens to do to feel safe in OUR city? Authorize us all to carry weapons? City employees: IT ISN'T ALL ABOUT YOU!!!! It's about us, too. Remember us, taxpayers who pay city salaries? We're facing these issues too.

The fact is this city needs more officers. But our officers won't give up their raises, won't pay a portion of their health care, won't change their pension plan so that the city can afford more officers.

What are we all supposed to do now? The economy stinks, not much new business on the near horizon to pump up the city coffers. What's
your solution?

Until I see movement by the cops on something -- health care, pension and/or raises, I won't agree to more taxes. That would be extortion, and I won't do it. As a taxpayer, I won't be held hostage, which is how I feel right now.
Sick and Tired   |February.03.2010
Great idea Concerned Citizen! Haa. I think we all might need to do so in the near future.

As for Firebug- yeah, if you have enough police officers ACTUALLY patrolling, then yes, I think it does make a difference.

If someone is hanging out waiting to do something wrong and an officer drives by and keeps asking you what you are up to and gets a look at your face more than once, chances are you aren't going to take the same risks.
Wondering   |February.03.2010
I wonder if the campus police officers could of made a difference if we still had them.
Concerned Citizen   |February.03.2010
Anonymous said: "Oh shut it, Real Truth. You're obviously a PSU apologist idiot. To make the GIANT leap from opening people's eyes to taxpayer abuse and kids brutally ganging up on somebody who happened to be a city worker is ridiculous."

So, Anonymous, what is your solution then for City Workers to feel safe in Vallejo, now that Vallejo PD is set to lose more officers? Should City Council authorize ALL City Workers to carry concealed weapons on themselves, and receive firearm training?
Firebug   |February.03.2010
avatar Looks like the nonsense from the Horrid has boiled its way here. Does any one truly believe the number of police officers in a city reduces crime? When there was an Officer at Vallejo High School his car was always parked in the raceway between the Admin office music center. Sadly an attack would still have taken place.
Downthestreet   |February.03.2010
I'm not surprised this happened. Vallejo just laid off alot of police officer due to going into bankruptcy. And others are in fear of getting laid off soon. I'm sure the coverage is limited to emergency calls. It takes alot to get a police officer to come for a non-ER call. Try reporting your stereo stolen. They tell you to file a report online now.
Sick and Tired- Again!   |February.03.2010
Why aren't we outside the City Counsel offices bashing them?

If more of our officers seek greener pastures where will we be? We will be in a community run by drug dealers and thugs, even more so than we are now.

As it is the officers that are currently on patrol are at high risk. There are not enough of them in the field and they don't have adequate backup. Might I ask what their motivation might be to put themselves in harms way to protect a city full of people that appear to not want them here?
I think everyone throwing stones should maybe go through the police academy, sign up to be
an officer in Vallejo for the pay YOU think they should have and see how it goes.
What we need is a hard-hitting Mayor that can get police in here in larger numbers and start weeding out all of our trash. I don't care what color you are or how misdirected you are- NOT MY PROBLEM. GET OUT! Every idiot that is hanging out and up to no good should feel pressured to move on, you can call it harassment- I call it a step in the right direction!
All the idiots in Vallejo are taking over. Sitting back and pointing the finger at police and boo-hooing over misguided teens is a waste of time. TOUGH
LOVE is right, get them the hell out of our city!
Do we really want to be the Compton of the Bay Area? You think our houses aren't worth anything now- just wait until you can't walk down the street without getting beat up!
Sick and Tired- previous messa   |February.03.2010
Why aren
Sick and Tired- previous messa   |February.03.2010
We live in a community with an overabundance of thugs. We are all on the verge of having nearly no protection. I wish everyone would stop complaining about the police/city contracts! City counsel made those contracts yet they all just sit pretty and watch everyone else take the heat. I think the last thing we should be doing is making the few officers we have left feel unwanted. Because guess what people- Police in other cities make just as much if not more! The only reason Vallejo officers make $$$$ is because they work around the clock. WAKE UP!

City Counsel and our Mayor have done
nothing! NOTHING. Why aren
Sick and Tired!!!!   |February.03.2010
We live in a community with an overabundance of thugs. We are all on the verge of having nearly no protection. I wish everyone would stop complaining about the police/city contracts! City counsel made those contracts yet they all just sit pretty and watch everyone else take the heat. I think the last thing we should be doing is making the few officers we have left feel unwanted. Because guess what people- Police in other cities make just as much if not more! The only reason Vallejo officers make $$$$ is because they work around the clock. WAKE UP!

City Counsel and our Mayor have done
nothing! NOTHING. Why aren
Anonymous   |February.03.2010
Oh shut it, Real Truth. You're obviously a PSU apologist idiot. To make the GIANT leap from opening people's eyes to taxpayer abuse and kids brutally ganging up on somebody who happened to be a city worker is ridiculous.

Those kids would have attacked anybody who had been unfortunate enough to be in the same place/time as that city worker.
Juan Stabonezya   |February.03.2010
#@%#ing savages!
The Real Truth   |February.03.2010
You know what, folks... VIB has been successful in painting a picture for public consumption of City Hall and City Workers being the evil ones because of the bankruptcy situation. It isn't surprising then that the public catches on and labels anyone associated with the City as "EVIL". So why is it surprising to you all here that these misguided youths would get the impression that City Workers are fair game for them to take advantage of like they did here? If this is the case, then VIB for sure has to bear some of the responsibility for that kind of perception.
momster   |February.03.2010
In a normal City, citizens would not condone such a vicious act on any citizen. They would all unite to banish such act. Who cares if the victim came back and said whatever or to scold...To defend such a violant act to me is uncomprehensible--I don't care what color the perpertrators may happen to be.

Vallejo makes so many excuses so they don't have to address any issues. A healthy cities identifies the problem and does whatever it takes to fix it. But first, you have to admit there is a problem.
Firebug   |February.03.2010
avatar anonymous,
That is an excellent question, what is the root of the problem? Why did this person go back to the scene and chase the student? Not very bright in my opinion and a terrible incident for all involved. At least it has not taken on a racial tone here which I am thankful for.
momster   |February.03.2010
To gang up on one adult and then leave them laying on the ground suffering is uncomprehensible to me. Please get your heads out of the sand and start addressing the bullying issue. Do not make excuses for this type of behaviour. www.nobully.com.

I do not want my child to learn this type of behaviour just as I didn't want my child to attend St. Basils since my last experience when they were passing yes on 8 signs outside of the church doors during a baptism i attended. My child does not need to learn Hate by a bunch of backwards people.

Yes, bullying is a part of life and does
occur everywhere, but not to this extent. This attack is barberic. Tough love for Vallejo!
Anonymous   |February.03.2010
I find it extremely offensive that this incident happened to begin with!

Police presence or lack of has nothing to do with it! Realizing the bounderies of civilized behaviour and bearing the consequences if one does not adhere to them, that is the issue.

You are just as guilty as the bloggers on the hated TH, making excuses and venting, without addressing and looking at the root of our problem.
Firebug   |February.03.2010
avatar The sad thing is that the usual suspects of racist and homophobes over at the Times Horrid blog have turned this incident into an indictment of the African American community here in Vallejo, and I find that extemely offensive.
J.M   |February.03.2010
I constantly keep saying to myself our neighborhood is safe & purposely walk it with my dog & make it a point to any thief, mugger, & delinquents alike there is no room for them here. What those juvenile-thugs & troubled delinquents did was a barbaric act!! It is no wonder I have my reservations & distrust when I see them out & about. On another note, I wish there were more teen/juvenile community centers, sponsors to keep them away from trouble.

I am really considering carrying a weapon for protection when I walk my neighborhood and use it if I have too, but I hope my Shepherd
will avoid the usage of such just by giving him the command to attack. In either case, it would be best to use neither of the options mentioned.
Sad   |February.03.2010
Concerned, because there are more of us citizens out there who agree with the "regularsl at the council meetings who are complaining about high public safety costs. We want more cops, but we're tired of being held hostage by them. I expect their contracts to be fixed BEFORE I vote for a tax increase. No more 3 percent at 50, no more free health care, no more binding arbitration. Then and only then will the city start to gain control of it's finances and be able to hire a larger police force.

Until then, keep scaring away. I'm not buying.
silasbarnabe   |February.03.2010
avatar A tragic event and even more tragic in that it appears to have been 100 percent preventable. After viewing the footage from the convenience store it appears that the victim actually came back to the scene and exited the vehicle chasing the students before they actually ganged up on him.

One has to ask why would anyone go back to that scene and chase the perpetrators and not expect the outcome? This seems to be more of an tragedy because of bad decisions rather than police presence.
concerned   |February.03.2010
If the citizens cared, they would go to the city counsel meetings and complain instead of the same old people saying the same old thing. And it's ignorant to blame it on the PS contracts. The facts are facts, and the fact is that Vallejo PD and FD are below the average in pay with bay area or even northern bay area cities.
Observer   |February.02.2010
SAD - you hit the nail on the head. The PSC's greed got us into the police shortage problem in the first place. I don't want to pay more taxes just so that inflated PSU contracts and goodies can be covered.

It's obvious that the police are exploiting everything and anything that happens in Vallejo right now. So take a pay cut that will allow us to bring more officers onboard or at least not lay off the officers we already have.

Also, as for the ex-Vallejo officers that are now being hired by Richmond and Hayward, anybody run a comparison between Vallejo's contracts and the other
departments? The Ibanez article in the Times failed to investigate and/or mention any comparison.
Sad   |February.02.2010
Ah yes, bring out the PSU apologists. Let me see, if the cops know that this is a hot spot before and after school, why can't the cops on duty drive around that area during those times? Better yet, get some of those high ranking cops out of their offices and off their chairs during these times, put them in uniforms, and get out on the streets in these areas? Or why don't the cops not take their 8% raise due in July so the city won't have to lay off more cops to pay for it?

But no, it's gotta be about hiring more cops. More, more, more. As a resident and taxpayer, I want more cops and better
public safety. But I'm not willing to pay more taxes if it just means paying for fewer cops to make more and more money.

And finally, this isn't just a Vallejo problem. Or a cop problem. Or a city council problem. Or a black or white or Latino problem. It's a societal problem. It's happening in cities all over the country. We can't keep pointing our fingers at others to solve a problem we all own in some way.

But you PSU apologists won't want to hear that because you'll be too busy exploiting this recent violence to beat your drums for more, more, more.
Anonymous   |February.02.2010
It was just last year when the officers assigned to the high schools were cut. When someone says no one will be injured because of the cuts in police, I would point out this very incident. When assigned to Vallejo High, officers knew this was a hot spot during lunch hour and after school. They were alway there. I am confident this assault would not have occured.

Remember, as shown in a recent VIB article, Fairfield has an almost identical GF budget to Vallejo but dedicates $5,000,000 MORE to their police budget than Vallejo, resulting in dozens more police officers. Simply put, the Vallejo
council puts less importance in public safety in Vallejo than Fairfield council does for their community.

That said, the Vallejo community seems fine with that!
VIBReader   |February.02.2010
City Council has to act now before these thugs take over this town.
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