Walmart is Coming to Vallejo -- Whaddaya Think?

3/8/13 -- Hey Guys. By now most of you know that Wal-Mart is opening a "Neighborhood Market" store in the old Mervyn's location on Sonoma Blvd.

So, here's your chance to sound off...love it, hate it...union busting China patronizing good job killing retail megalith...or just what we need at discount prices? Great job opportunities for Vallejo...or rape of the proletariat?

Here's a great little video tribute from songwriter Jessica Frech with real pictures of Wal-Mart shoppers to help you reach an informed opinion!
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Blue tick   |March.16.2013
The video just about sums up my opinion of Wal-Mart. A visit there is more entertaining than a trip to Disney Land. A perfect fit for Vallejo and bring on the monthly handout (stuff) checks.
know vallejo   |March.13.2013
@sun lover, yes!!! a nursery in connecticut. logee's, fruiting, rare and tropical plants. www.logees.com. 1-888-330-8038. i know. it's far away, but the catalog is very informative and highly tempting. i, too, love fragrance and they carry many fragrant plants. some with wonderful night scent. i'm sure there must be local nurseries that either carry or will order some of the plants in the catalog. one plant that i have personal experience (both in the garden and in a container) with and bought locally is osmanthus fragrans, commonly called sweet olive. loves vallejo's climate.
good luck!
Jessica   |March.13.2013
@sun lover

I have a lot of jasmine in my backyard outside of my bedroom windows. Pretty little white blossoms, blooms April-Oct and smells awesome on a warm summer evening. Grows like crazy in a nice sunny spot.
Sun Lover   |March.13.2013
Not much a green thumb but I am a tremendous admirer of fragrant blooms. I am looking for simple pots to grow veggies in this year. I am an apartment dweller and get some great afteroon sun and want to try my hand at a small terrace garden. I may try to grow a few flowers that smell nice and waft into my livingroom during the day and evening. Any suggestions?
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
"The result is what we saw with the hostile takeover of a democratically elected council."

The hostile takeover was a demonstration against the PD. The PD has to deal with that crowd as well as defend their salaries and benefits. The solution is to reduce salary and benefits which will encourage more potential employees to want to engage with the "hostile crowd" that the basic VIB community will not engage? Cannot control or even have a line of communication with.

Really a dumb solution
know vallejo   |March.13.2013
since we're discussing gardening, does anyone have experience growing caladiums in vallejo?
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
Oh, it can be done. But it's going to take more than a positive vibe. It requires people to start taking responsibility for themselves. And I don't see that happening with this group anytime soon. And by group, I don't just mean the criminals and thugs. I include in that, the majority of voters in v town and people who excuse ridiculous, uncivil behavior because of the color of a persons skin.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it.
Chinese Proverb
Jessica   |March.13.2013
How refreshing, a symphony. And that's not sarcasm. Wouldn't it be nice if people wanted to come to the symphony in Vallejo? Wouldn't it be nice if some of the people who ride the ferry everyday had a place to have dinner or an evening out here in town? That's revenue for the city. That's never going to happen until we change our current ghetto status. Dreaming and wishing won't make it so. Oh and I just planted a ton of sun patiens over the weekend....the humming birds love them!!!
know vallejo   |March.13.2013
@sun lover, early spring flowers? i have had at least one plant flowering all winter. saucer magnolias, winter blooming clematis, a pale blue star flowered bulb i can't remember the name of, hellebores, lemon trees, alyssum. year round flowers. that's what i mean about vallejo. always something beautiful if you open your eyes and look around you.
Vallejo Symphony   |March.13.2013
There is going to be a solo recital by Paul Psarras who plays classical guitar. A chance to enjoy a Grammy nominated talent right here in our own backyard. He's appearing Friday at the Bay Terrace Theater at 8pm. Tickets are $15 and $8. Come out and support the Vallejo Symphony.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
@anonymous

Yes, exactly. But they don't want to hear the truth here. I'm not sure if they want to continue to steep in this dysfunctional crud, or if acknowledging the reality makes them feel less than, in some way. It's fascinating to me. And probably the main reason Vallejo is in such a dismal state. Can't fix what you don't acknowledge. And the decent families won't allow their children to attend vallejo's public schools, which speeds up the domino effect.
Sun Lover   |March.13.2013
Yes I love the weather here. I took my first evening stroll at 7pm yesterday (thank you day light savings) and it was still warm enough to go without a jacket. I spotted some early spring flowers beginning to sprout in my neighbor's yard.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
I thought Gary Coultier had it correct when he said the key to attracting business starts with the quality of the school system. It's so frustrating to be caught in this position. The schools are run by people who lower the standards for civil behavior and discipline to accommodate the large numbers of dysfunctional kids and their dysfunctional entitlement families. The dysfunctional kids go through school thinking their rude and violent behavior is acceptable. The result is what we saw with the hostile takeover of a democratically elected council. We're being held hostage in Vallejo by
foolish and dysfunctional thinkers and they scare business away.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
No amount of money spent on "changing perspectives" can counteract the news, that the entire bay area views, about Vallejo. Mutiple shootings, the Mitchell family screaming anti cop rhetoric into the news camera, and 14 year old rapists. You can spend multiple millions trying to lie to people, and it won't change Vallejo's reality one bit.
know vallejo   |March.13.2013
vallejo does have perfect gardening weather. never having gardened anywhere else, i'm spoiled. we're putting out tomatoes and the northeast is stil getting snow. i'm grateful i live here.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
I thought we were all supposed to coexist? I guess you mean, coexist only with people who agree with your stick your head in the sand and think positive thoughts way of solving problems. That's okay, I don't mind. It's fun to watch how
"positively" you react to my posts. I wish I was as smart as you.
My name is......   |March.13.2013
My name is Jessica. Does that help? Of course it doesn't. It doesn't make my opinion any more valid. And this is a public comment on the Internet. Sorry, some of us have common sense and can't talk or think ourselves into the deep denial you find yourself in.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
The best way to deal with trolls is to ignore them. She is the she version of Sam. Always making every issue "all about me". As with all dark spirits they feed on attention. In the spirit of positive thinking, we should starve the troll. She is used to playing by herself.

It's going to be another sunny day and primed for weed pulling and garden planning. Have a great day everyone.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
Go away? What happened to all that positivity?
know vallejo   |March.13.2013
this site has a virus. ghetto anonymous. apparently, this incredibly negative person has alienated all the real people in her life and is desperately lonely. she comes to this site and spews negativity daily. i keep thinking that she will realize how truly unwanted she is here but no. i think that like another unwanted poster that will remain nameless, ghetto anonymous has a sick need for attention, any attention. do we starve her? refute her negative thinking? point out her failures as a community member? try to guide her to a more positive, productive path? she obviously is passing
her extremely negative view of vallejo (and i suspect all of life) to the next generation of her family, her poor nephew. clearly this site brings her some kind of sick satisfaction. how can we make her go away?
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
Two shot in V town last night. Saw it on the kron4 news. Not good for that whole "changing perspectives" thing the city had planned. Maybe the news is just a negative thinker. Stay positive. Keep those happy thoughts flowing, I think it's working!!!!
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
Don't worry about my nephew, he's happy, smart, funny and insightful. Safely tucked away in private school, safely away from the "positive" kids in public school. We don't have to worry about him being exposed to the violence and hostility in our school system, run by head bully Bishop. Protected from being physically attacked while other children tape it. Oh wait, maybe my evil, mean soul made that up.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
20 years working for change? Vallejo has fallen hard and fast over the last twenty years. Maybe you/we should try a different route. Or do you want to "work" at trying to civilize people who don't want to be civilized for the next twenty years. I already know my neighbors. I watch out for them and we take care of our neighborhood. We don't tolerate ghetto nonsense here. That's what it takes, on a larger scale. But you just remain positive! Except of course until someone disagrees with you.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
Wow. What wonderfully positive things, you "positive" people have to say! Such positive thoughts floating around in your "positive" minds. I wonder how many times a day you lie to yourself. In the time it's taken you to post the long winded, multiple rants against me, you could have picked up trash for several hours. If I'm wrong, you sure waste a lot of time trying to discredit me. One only needs eyes an IQ over 85 to know what I'm saying is true. Please school me on my horrible, evil soul now oh wonderful "positive" people of the ghetto. Positively in denial. And
when someone points out the truth and your denial is in danger, you attack with your "positive" outlook. Hahahahaha thanks for the laugh this morning. Anybody get shot last night?
Walk Like A Duck   |March.13.2013
@wr, I believe you have me confused with "ghetto anonymous". I am only mocking her based on the constant hate filled diatribe sheehas posted about Vallejo. When confronted she claims she doesn't hate Vallejo. She is also one of a couple of people who has posted some of the most racist comments on every thread she can find. Every comment is based on race. Yet she denies being a racist. She hates our town, she hates the people and she feels that our council is incompetant. She constantly wishes for a town with no black people in it. Yet she claims not to be a racist. That's why I
stated "if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, must be a duck...."
I love my city and the people. I know the good people who are working for change. I work side by side with them. I have lived here for over twenty years. So yes I think you have me confused wirh the spiteful one that goes by "anonymous".
wharf rat   |March.12.2013
@ Walk like a Duck , clearl'y You have Little Experience in Vallejo working toward positive change , if You did You would know that there is a huge ELEMENT
working toward such ... Home by Home , Neighborhood by Neighborhood , Area by Area The Good People of Our Town rally
together , day in and day out , year by year , incident by incident ,, We are Diligent and do not submit to the criminal class regardless of race or Economy , as We are "One" , However discouraged , We are diligent and will protect Our Homes and Families ...To the end . I Suggest You get involved with Your
neighbours and form an alliance at the least You will get to know Your Neighbors possibly future Friends .....
Walk Like A Duck   |March.12.2013
Did I hear quackers? Ducks should be quietly sleeping by now. Quack quack quack!
Anonymous   |March.12.2013
Yeah it wasn't an Impressive story the first two times you posted your story. It is sad however that your negative imprint is already rubbing off on him. Hopefully your prejudice and racist thoughts won't make him as miserable as his aunt is. You are no better than the angry people on the steps. I certainly hope that you don't have contact with other children.
Anonymous   |March.12.2013
One of Vallejo's biggest problems is we are short on well educated, successful people. They don't choose to live here, they live elsewhere. When you try and run a non profit or business, there is just not the caliber of people needed for success (many times, not always). It's sad but maybe that will change over time and we'll find a way to attract educated people.
Anonymous   |March.12.2013
Yes, ghetto. My sister drive through Richmond to get to the San rafael bridge, she said through a few ghetto like neighborhoods...my very smart, observant 5 year old nephew, who knew where they were going, asked "mama, why are we back in vallejo?" He's smarter than you are, or maybe he already has higher standards. Or maybe you went to Vallejo schools.
wharf rat   |March.12.2013
@ Raileysisgood yes in a nutshell it is a
good store and yes they do have a health food section ! something Safeway has not figured out yet . Their butcher shop is good one reason is that it is Union all the meat cutters have served an Apprentiship and know the trade the regular grocery folks are not Union and must dance to the corporate tune . If You ask the butchers will cut any kind of cut you desire ,this shows it is a good meat market . They also grind all their hamburger on site and will do it to order if requested . Another great meat market is Me Pueblo , this is the
go to for
real chickens (whole with heads and feet) kept on ICE ! a superiour meat market for even the best BBQ . I remember the 80's when you could not even buy decent coffee beans in town had to go to Berkeley every month for coffee . We still need a good bakery many super markets have the ovens and mixers etc but have no real Bakers
Vallejo could well support a whole foods "type" market with a real bakery crankin out REAL bread fresh daily "We have the market" and desire all We need is a Ringer to kickstart it if done well the Community will support it .
know vallejo   |March.12.2013
@ghetto anonymous, you're right. wishing and dreaming doesn't create change. getting up off your negative butt and participating in an event like the one put on saturday is what creates change. i suppose that we should all be grateful that you didn't attend with your downer attitude. everyone there was involved in some kind of community work. if you had started your "vallejo is a ghetto" mantra, the people there would have booed you out the door.
@wharf rat, i'm sure monica doesn't need me to speak for her but just in case she doesn't see your commrnt....
i don't
think she meant to use your real name. just show a modicum of creativity by using say, wharf rat or know vallejo for example.
Walks Like A Duck   |March.12.2013
The ugly duckling raises her hateful head. She can't stand positive people because she won't fit in. Quack quack quack...

Another example of waterfront mingling is Mission Bay in San Diego. Fine hotels and around the bend you still have your fish huts and brew Wharf Rat. Nice melding of different intetests and taste.
wharf rat   |March.12.2013
@ Monica people insist on being anonymous
for a plethora of reasons such as employment or conflicts of interest stop obsessing on minutia and focus on content and the exchange of ideas/opinions . RE:
Ritz 5 star hotels "screw em" give me a crusty bait shop and a cold brew any day
gentrification has destroyed many a waterfront places where kids can explore
and fish without having to tip a valet .
Anonymous   |March.12.2013
Wishing and dreaming doesn't create change. And yes, Vallejo is a ghetto. And yes, I go to other cities all of the time and Vallejo is dirty and boarded up with dead lawns, graffiti and trash. That's a ghetto.
Monica   |March.12.2013
Why does everyone on this blog insist on being anonymous? I don't get it. Vallejo is not "ghetto." People who think so need to do more traveling to other cities and towns around the state.

Never say never to upscale stores. Once upon a time there were dive bars, liquor and tackle stores, and dilapidated beach houses where a five star Ritz Carlton resort now sits in Dana Point, CA.
Raleysisgood   |March.11.2013
I've been shopping at Raleys for years. The workers there are better payed and the quality of their food seems to be better than what I've seen the Walmart American Canyon especially in the produce and health food section. I don't want to see Raleys negatively affected -some of the folks there I've associated with for over 20 years.
Clarke Johnston   |March.11.2013
WalMarts sins are many, known to any alert American watching Main Street dry up. Executives even bribed officials in Mexico to grease wheels prior to new openings, and wrote about it emails. Still, the old Mervyn's became a chain-link nightmare. Blossoming Blight. The change will be better for Vallejo in the long run. As to WalMarts corrosive influence on our economy, go straighten out a lobbyist or foggy bottom dweller on taxes, tariffs, labor law, minimum wage and all the other attendant ills.
HappaBlenda   |March.11.2013
This is my emotions...that's the final blow to Vallejo. Low prices, low-fashions! EECH!
Anonymous   |March.11.2013
I think Quack is simply pointing out the shallowness of some of the people and their conversations here. It's clear that some people don't have a clue about problem solving and it's clear that all they want to do is complain and point fingers. It's also clear that some people here hold some racist, bigoted, wannabe elitists, and or prejudice views. Sorry but you can be in denial but your comments reveal who you are as a person. If you don't want to be judged that maybe you should look first at yourself and stop being so quick to judge others.
The Walmart Economy   |March.11.2013
46,609,072 People on Food Stamps in 2012; Record 47,791,996 in December
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/46609072-people-food-stamps-2012_706745

A World's Record: More Than 30% of U.S. Population Unemployed
http://investmentwatchblog.com/a-worlds-record-more-than-30-of-u-s-population-unemployed-as-dow-closes-at-brand-new-all-time-record-high/
The Walmart Economy   |March.11.2013
46,609,072 People on Food Stamps in 2012; Record 47,791,996 in December
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/46609072-people-food-stamps-2012_706745

A World
know vallejo   |March.11.2013
LOL. @ghetto anonymous, you're projecting again. you are the kind of person that "...sits on the internet all day....meritless accusations...no valid argument..." and if this website is so obscure, why are you here? yet another indication of your need to dwell in the negative. you come here so you can feel persecuted and thus justified in your righteous indignation. but that, like much you think, is a fantasy you're lost in.
Anonymous   |March.11.2013
Anyone that posts "Quack" as some kind of intelligent discourse can't be playing with a full deck. I wouldn't expect too much from this individual.
Anonymous   |March.11.2013
Just read it on my phone and posted, I didn't jump to do anything, nor do I take satisfaction. This town is now a gutter. I don't take pleasure in that fact. What kind of person sits on the Internet all day, so they can instantly respond to every word a person they've never met posts on some obscure website and then makes meritless accusations about that persons character? Simply because you don't agree and have no valid argument against everything I've said. I won't tell you what kind of person does that, see if you can figure it out for yourself.
Walks Like A Duck   |March.10.2013
Quack!
Walks Like A Duck   |March.10.2013
I knew you were a miserable sort. But what you really are is a schadenfreude. A person who takes malicious satisfaction over someone"s misfortune. I bet you clapped with glee while reading about the event and immediately jumped to post on the internet. You're one sick person.
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
Three people shot in separate incidences yesterday. First nice day and three shot. Doesn't bode well for the rest of the spring/summer. Ready to accept ghetto status yet?
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
The important thing to keep in mind when puzzling over the gay community's beef with WalMart is related to benefits for domestic partners. WalMart in the past was unwilling to entertain any suggestions on how they should run their business. Sam Walton was probably stubborn and the kids adopted a similar position. They didn't like people trying to tell them how to run their business. The gay community pushed hard against WalMart's benefit policy for years and now it's my understanding that Walmart has relented and made good progress according to some activist groups.

Some of the old battles
linger on after the cease fire as is the case with our local queens.
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
So if you keep making suggestions that haven't been thought out, how do you expect to have a discussion on solutions? You finally get to tell us your ideas and one question causes you to shut down?
know vallejo   |March.10.2013
no, sorry. you haven't answered my question about personal involvement. unless, of course, drinking margaritas and marinating steaks is your idea of civic activity. what do you think I can do to bring about change in vallejo?
Salty Dog   |March.10.2013
And here I thought this thread was about Walmart. Silly me.78t
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
Your questions are irrelevant. It would be like any other job. An amount earned per hour. Different people work different number of hours. I told you my solution. It's not difficult to understand. If you don't agree, that's fine. I'd like to enjoy my margarita and marinate my steaks now. Thanks for the entertainment.
@ghetto anonymous   |March.10.2013
No you can't "just call it a job". Requiring someone to work at a job that is normally filled by a very well paid city employee for far less money simply because they are in need of assistance is indentured servatude.

Don't ask you any questions? I thought you had solutions? I'm asking about the entitlements you are railing about. How much does a person receive a month? How long? Under what terms? How else could you factor in a requirement to work if you can't calculate the financial worth?
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
I'm done engaging you and your ridiculous questions, which you intend to ridicule as soon as I answer. I told you earlier, I am not a victim, so of course I am not helpless. My neighborhood will be fine, because we won't allow the alternative. You can keep pretending you're too good for walmart, when in reality, walmart is probably too good for V town.
Walks Like A Duck   |March.10.2013
@downhill, I didn't write a 1000 word essay. I simply copied and pasted hateful anonymous' words to prove that she is conflicted and a liar. If anything it is her 1000 word essay. You two seem to think you can demand answers yet you never have anything constructive to say. Isn't you that attributed the essay to "the better part ( the literate, civic minded) of the black community"? When in fact it was copied words from the better part of the literate, civic minded white community. Better known as ghetto anonymous.
know vallejo   |March.10.2013
only a few are elected to office. what can an ordinary person do to help improve our community? do you believe that we're helpless/powerless?
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
No, they can consider it a job. If they don't want to work, they don't earn the pay. Don't ask me a question, if you don't want to hear the answer. The welfare state is not sustainable. You better think of a solution soon.
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
And you do realize that the redevelopment funds were returned to the State when Gov. Brown disolved the redev. agencies? Don't you?
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
So exactly how do you think the city can mandate indentured servants?

Can you tell us what is the requirements for county aide? What is the mnthly allotments and terms for eligibility?
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
Not sure. Run for city government? I doubt one person with that view would be successful though. Unless it was a charismatic mayor like Guiliani. That is the model we should follow.
know vallejo   |March.10.2013
so, if i agree that this is the solution to vallejo's problems, what can i, as a resident, do to help?
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
As I've said before, any one who receives any form of public assistance should be working in their community while their children are at school. Picking up trash, painting over graffiti, pulling weeds etc. Gives them a stake in their community and pride that comes from being productive. And saves the city maintenance budget $. Then, any and all redevelopment money should go to hiring additional officers. Cops, cops and more cops. Let Vallejo be known for being the place where you will be caught when committing a crime. Property values will rise and the free market will fix the rest. Ta da.
know vallejo   |March.10.2013
okay, ghetto anonymous. for arguments sake only, let's say that vallejo is a ghetto. what do you think we can do to change that?
Downhill   |March.10.2013
The quality of discussion here sure has gone downhill.

Some posters here can write thousand word essay proving Anonymous is a racist and liar but will not/have not said a single word against the riders group who promotes violence. How pathetic is that? Granted Anonymous is not a saint but the energy directed at him is surely out of proportion.

When Marc published some writing from this 10 kid family, he attracted people of their caliber. Printing once or twice is ok so people can understand their point of view but repeatedly with no new information?

When you put a pile of **** in the
middle of the room, the flies come.
Walks Like A Duck   |March.10.2013
Yawn...
"I don't like...I don't want....I ...I...I..
Yawn...
Dialogue Monitor   |March.10.2013
@ President Johnson quoter, no matter how many times we say it there always is another person like you who can't understand simple rules. No profanity, no racial or ethnic slurs. Even if you partially spell it out. You want to participate here? Follow the rules.
Salty Dog   |March.10.2013
Back to Wallmart et al:

" What we're on the brink of is scale implosion. Everything gigantic in American life is about to get smaller or die. Everything that we do to support economic activities at gigantic scale is going to hamper our journey into the new reality. The campaign to sustain the unsustainable, which is the official policy of US leadership, will only produce deeper whirls of entropy. I hope young people recognize this and can marshal their enthusiasm to get to work. It's already happening in the local farming scene; now it needs to happen in a commercial economy that will
support local agriculture."

- Kuntsler
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
I'm not a victim. I take care of my neighborhood and look out for my neighbors. No shenanigans tolerated in my neck of the woods. It would be nice if my family and I could shop and eat out in the city we live in though. And it would be nice if my nephew could go to public school instead of private....especially since my sister pays property taxes on two properties in town. But that is out of the question at this point. Partially due to so many of you unable or unwilling to face the ugly truth of vallejo's current condition.
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
I'm not anti Vallejo, I'm anti ghetto, anti garbage, anti welfare state, anti influx of subsidized housing, anti graffiti, anti pants around your thighs, anti bullies running the school district, anti unintelligent city government. Without those things, Vallejo and the free market would take care of the rest.
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
We made a big mistake when we allowed the federal government to replace the father in the home. According to some accounts, President Johnson during the great society legislation is quoted as saying "I'll have those ni***rs voting democrat for years." What we've done is tear apart the social fabric of the majority of black families in this country and other cultures as well. Once people become accustomed to entitlements it's very hard to break them of the habit. It can go on for generations in families. It's hard medicine we now must take to put this broken part of our countries
history back together again.
@ANONYMOUS   |March.10.2013
You are right about the union "closet" WM shoppers. It was interesting to see that while the WM discussions were happening the unions did not cone out and support the grocers and retail clerks unions and their employees. They did however try to back door a sweetheart PLA deal for the trades, selling out on everybody else.

And let's not forget the election seasonal prounion Krusham who continues to swear that VIB is a union busting organization yet during the Winco discussions spoke out against Safeway and declared his allegence to Walmart because he could only afford cheap things at
cheap prices. Yes many union faithful do shop at walmart and many other anti-union stores.
know vallejo   |March.10.2013
@ghetto anonymous, if you didn't attack anyone, why are you defending yourself?
i didn't tell you to move. i suggested that you educate yourself. i think that you enjoy being consistently negative about others. it makes you feel better about your own lot. it's obvious that you don't want conversation, only venting about how horrible you peceive life in vallejo to be. as another poster pointed out, you paint yourself the victim. and here i thoght that you were anti-victimhod.
BTW, deflection and avoidance seem to be what you're best at.
Walk Like A Duck   |March.10.2013
Quack! Do you really need me to repeat your own words that will again prove you to be a liar? Quack?
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
I'm not anti Vallejo, I'm anti ghetto, anti garbage, anti welfare state, anti influx of subsidized housing, anti graffiti, anti pants around your thighs, anti bullies running the school district, anti unintelligent city government. Without those things, Vallejo and the free market would take care of the rest.
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
Living in a ghetto, but too good for walmart. You people are delusional. Wonder how many shootings we had last night?
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
Anonymous you have had plenty of rebuttels to your comments. You have had them countered with related questions. And you have ignored them all. You resort to playing the victim, "you attack me" and go right to repeating your same negative anti-Vallejo rant and refusing to answer any questions. If you are so annoyed about the "urber-liberalism" on VIB, why don't you find a teabagger blog to communicate with? Then at least you won't have to worry about what you term as political correctness which seems to be eating away at you.
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
You can't escape reality people. Why do surrounding towns have restaurants and shops and bustling shopping areas while we get dollar stores and grocery outlets? Because we are the ghetto of solano county. How is that ever going to change when you are consistently in denial?
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
I haven't attacked anyone. I'm not the only anon poster. The people doing the attacking NEVER point out where I'm wrong, they just say "move if you don't like it". That's intelligent.
know vallejo   |March.10.2013
"i have no idea what redlining is,...{"
@ghetto anonymous, and therein lies one of your major problems. instead of taking advantage of the google feature on your computer to educate yourself, you chose to remain ignorant and attack another poster. how's that workin' out for you?
Faux News   |March.10.2013
You many of you anonymous look alike. Since the question was directed at you and the answers are so similar one could easily conclude that it was you . Sad endings us that you?

And hateful anonymous, glad to be of service. Anytime you need a mirror to look into I can provide one.
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
You know, there are quite a few people who have worked at Walmart for 5, 10, 15, 20 years and not as managers. You should check out their pictures and maybe get their points of view. The video is insulting to them and classless and clueless. If Vallejo wants to be the mecca of subsidized housing and the jobless, it better have affordable places for its people to shop, don't you think? By the way, some of you clowns, and we have all seen you, look just as bad as those in your little video. You really shouldn't be casting any stones in your glass houses.

Anyone could stand in the
thousands of Safeways, Raleys, Trader Joes, Luckys or any other grocery stores and mom and pops (especially, in Vallejo) and find the same. Be real. The store is back and the mental midget that put this crap up was showing how very little he/she knows about their community while taking cheap shots, in the guise of humor, at them. Bravo!
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
I have no idea what red lining is, that wasn't my comment. I'm glad you are so all knowing, thank god for know it alls like you. How else would I know I was enraged? Thanks for the enlightenment!
rocketman   |March.10.2013
A Walmart market?! Great stuff. Better than an empty building sitting for years. But Vallejo seems to attract low-wage businesses that don't pay sales tax on most of their sales. It's never mentioned, but supermarkets pay little sales tax since food items are exempt from sales taxation. So supermarkets generate all kinds of issues for municipalities, but pay little in taxes--traffic mitigation involving highways & streets, traffic controls, police & fire protection.

Of course, I think it is the case that Walmart in American Canyon pays that City the equivalent of the cost of one police
officer for a year, every year, in order to contribute to police services there, which are sorely needed due to the large amount of criminal activities that take place at Walmart.

Will Vallejo have any similar deal with WalMart? Probably not.
Faux News   |March.10.2013
Oh your continued diatribes one after another are a clear indication to your rage whether or not you want to admit to it. Always negative always condescending and full of venom. And I love how you always pick up on what others have said about you and try and use it. Projecting much?

Red lining stopped long before you were born and certainly long before Vallejo's housing boom so people were able to buy where ever they could afford so what's your point?
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
Silas: "I think we will need a webpage for Vallejo people of Walmart."

Your AVATAR is a perfect fit for the video 'People that shop at Walmart'. You choose to be identified like that? Indigo is a bit closer to normal but would be a good fit as well
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
No hate or rage. I think you might be projecting. Just disappointment that we've let this mess escalate to this point. You can't fix a problem, if you don't acknowledge it.
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
Why not do what all good progressives do when faced with a problem? Legislate a solution!! Force Trader Joes to open a store here.....I'm sure you can work the discrimination, racism angle you are so enamored with. Lawsuit!!!!!!!
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
The older areas of Vallejo that were "red lined" years ago, survive today in pretty good shape. Very fortunate for this town because it has maintained these areas with a modicum of civility. As people move away from these enclaves and rent their homes without red lining practices, you can get some pretty trashy people as renters. Black, white, brown, all colors can come in wreak havoc on a formerly peaceful neighborhood. You can see condoms and needles in the most extreme problem houses. Mostly what I see and pick up all the time is fast food bags with the scraps of food and catsup,
the drink cups. Cigarettes and candy wrappers are high on the list too.
Faux News   |March.10.2013
Ha! Apparently smart enough that it keep you enraged and engaged. But really, for someone who has shown such contempt for the city you have resided in for years and now admitted hatred for the State you have spent your life in and whose populace you detest, it begs the question: why ARE you still here?
Walks Like A Duck   |March.10.2013
Oh even more contradiction within mere minutes.
First:
"Um, vallejo's issues have nothing to do with party affiliation"

Then minutes later:
"Vallejo are run with very progressive, liberal policies...progressive Utopias if you will. You can see the results of those policies clear as day."

Maybe your hate and anger is the cause of your flip flopping diatribe?
Walks Like A Duck   |March.10.2013
Yesterday:

"The self loathing, uber libs here would be better served to focus the blame where it belongs"

Today:
Um, vallejo's issues have nothing to do with party affliation."

You again sound conflicted. There seems to be a pattern emerging from your statements.
Quack!
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
If you were as smart as you think you are, you should be able to come up with something a little better than, if you don't like it leave. There's that surly attitude I was talking about.
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
"Repubs" are leaving Cali because of the ever increasing tax rate, that begets the welfare state that is destroying California. Soon you will run out of the biggest tax revenue chumps and then what will you do? Schools are already unusable, even with the most money spent per student in the country. Why is that? Oakland, Chicago and Vallejo are run with very progressive, liberal policies...progressive Utopias if you will. You can see the results of those policies clear as day. Garbage, crime and a general skanky attitude as soon as you hit town. Way to go progressives!! Please jump
through some more hoops trying to blame the outcome of those cities on republicans who have never set one foot here. Keep spinning your wheels, Vallejo is a ghetto and a trader joes or an andronicos or a whole foods ain't coming here folks. You live in a welfare state fantasy land.
Demographics   |March.10.2013
Republican slumlords and farmers of the poor and Democratic slumlords and farmers of the poor and Hermie checking with the business community lol
faux news   |March.10.2013
Ahhh another whining repub who has been ineffective in every attempt to convince the country that they are the smarter better party. Yet many of those teabagged red states like Texas are courting California businesses in order to survive life beyond oil. Whose cities like Austin are striving to be more like the progressive and liberal cities of California.

You like Texas so much yet you have chosen to live your life in Vallejo California in what you term as a ghetto. Sounds like a personal problem to me.
Spare us your frustrations from your own life's failures. Life's full of choices.
Anonymous   |March.10.2013
Um, vallejo's issues have nothing to do with party affiliation. It has everything to do with an unintelligent, misguided city council, severely lacking public safety and a large population of people who think ghetto gangsta "culture" is just peachy keen. Throw in a populace who fancy themselves very enlightened and too good for a walmart, yet live in a violent filthy ghetto. And I wouldn't brag about your democrats accomplishments, considering California, and other democratically run states, are being run into the ground financially and eventually will have to ask to be bailed out by
successfully run states such as Texas. Our schools are also some of the lowest performing in the country. If democrats were so awesome, shouldn't your schools reflect that? You can't claim success when you have accomplished nothing. Turning parts of beautiful California into neighborhoods resembling a third world country is not something to crow about.
deed watch   |March.09.2013
so what is the status of the ABANDONED
Wall Mart complex on Sonoma Blvd . It has been abandoned for years ! . Does it have Deed restrictions and if so why did COV issue permits for another location when this large property has been abandoned for years ? . WM has a track record of controlling retail space on main corridors and by doing so puts competition out of the game . Do We have a double standard or are We just for sale to the highest ---hole .. Will the old Mervyns property soon be fallow like
the WM property with Deed restrictions
or will it become a Mega Church as so many others have
?? stay tuned .
wharf rat   |March.09.2013
just the very fact that this thread started out as a discussion about Wall Mart coming BACK to Vallejo speaks volumes RE: the largest and most predatory Retailer in the U.S.A .. Actions speak louder than words , Vallejo should inact a livable wage ordinance and spear Wallmart with it .. PROFIT FROM OUR
DEMOGRAPHIC and low income residents ..
then be prepared to contribute to the Community that feeds you otherwise hit the road just like you did when you abandoned your , mega Store that still sits vacant .. COV Staff should have denied your permits due to past abandonment of prime property ,
still vacant .. Will the vacant property ordinance being proposed apply to retail
Pirates like Wallmart .. You are not a good neighbor nor even a good squatter
just a crappy Parasite with an all so well known track record .. Screw your Employees then face the wrath of this Community .. Our marketplace is discretionary as is your survival ...
Yea Demos   |March.09.2013
In case all you democratic haters out there have not noticed, Napa is Democratic, Fairfield is Democratic. Concord, Emeryville, San Jose, San Rafael, and almost every city in the Bay Area. What do they all have in common? They all have a Trader Joes, or two. Sorry Hateful one. Being Democratic has NOTHING to do with where TJ locates. Republicans are less than one third of all voters in California, and sinking rapidly. Given the extent of hatred demostrated by you, small wonder.
Anonymous   |March.09.2013
@ Anonymous you say you live in the neighborhood by St.Basil and you complain about having to pick up trash, used condoms and needles? Funny because I have friends in that neighborhood and I have never heard them say that they have found the things that you say litter your streets. Maybe some papers from the kids traveling through but used condoms and needles? Are you sure you're not embellishing your ghetto story?
@repub   |March.09.2013
So you are saying that the people of both Benicia and Suisun don't have the required demographics for a Trader Joe? Or the capital for a free market? Maybe you should inform your fellow repub ms. I hate vallejo or your position.
Anonymous   |March.09.2013
"Demographics or free market?"

Yes. Both at the same time.

Vallejo has a population of poor people by design. Compliments of the democrats.

Enjoy.
Anonymous   |March.09.2013
Ms. I hate all things vallejo likes to compare Vallejo to those other cities because she wishes she could live there. She is so miserable that she has spent the last several months insisting that everyone agree that our council and people of Vallejo are all ignorant and blind because they don't share her views. She insists that anyone who doesn't see Vallejo as the ghetto as she refers it to is stupid.
Anonymous   |March.09.2013
And so why is it that Benicia and suisun don't have a Trader Joe? Demographics or free market?
Salty Dog   |March.09.2013
....and gold buying businesses...how convenient.
Anonymous   |March.09.2013
So angry about someone pointing out what anyone with eyeballs can see. Millions of excuses and still Vallejo is mired in garbage, filth and crime. Why no decent businesses? Where does the blame lie there? Free market doesn't lie folks. Dollar stores, thrift stores, liquor stores, metro PCS, check cashing....that's Vallejo.
Anonymous   |March.09.2013
Oh no no no, know Vallejo. You see those neighborhoods have black people living in them and by anonymous' account, they are ALL part of the ghetto called Vallejo. 'Isn't that right anonymous?
ANONYMOUS:   |March.09.2013
ONE OF THE OTHER ANONS? If you like the atmosphere in Suisun City; Benicia or Napa and Sonoma Counties, why don't you move there. I will give you YOUR answer, because you couldn't afford to. Past Vallejo City Leaders, preserved our historical homes and neighborhoods, at a price that you could afford. It wasn't a decline in the market, it was good planning. (check it out): Suisun City was a rat hole, that because of Mayor Spering (who many here depise) rebuilt the City by good Leadership and Planning, but when he was doing it, Suisun City only had 7000 people in it and was actually a
neighborhood of Fairfield: Benica, was only a Humble Oil Company town of 12,000 and Mayor O'Blennis (another leader despised by many here) fought to make his City a quaint little town, with one employer and one home builder (Southampton), it didn't have any water, any transit needs and a dilapidated downtown full of bars and riff raft and thata was only in 1980. Vallejo was the largest City in Solano Co. then (100,000 people) with big City issues, but we knew who we were. Now people want to make us into Benicia, Suisun City??? Why so you can do to them what you are doing to Vallejo. Did you
know that Benica didn't have one restuarant in their City in 1982?? You can rebuilt small things or you can destroy...its your choice....Don't make Vallejo into something it was never destined to be, just make sure it keeps what it has had for the past 200 years. Pride, Integrity and a love of what others have preserved, so you can afford to live here...Nothing to say about Napa and Sonoma counties, that is where the rich Vallejoans went when they retired from Mare Island....good riddance....Peace
know vallejo   |March.09.2013
i wonder how the residents of glen cove, the vista, sandy beach, somerset highlands, vallejo heights, tiara, bellevedere, cimmeron hills, the neighborhoods around jesse bethel, the houses above sandy beach, mare island, and others feel about their neighborhoods being called ghettos.i can't be absolutely certain, but i doubt they would agree,
Anonymous   |March.09.2013
And poor poor anonymous, trapped in never never land and vowing to make everyone as miserable as herself. Where's the tearful icon?
Walks Like A Duck   |March.09.2013
Oh Salty I'm afraid you blew it. Unless you totally buy into the "all of Vallejo is a ghetto" presented by anonymous, you then become part of the problem and now a trashy person and part of the problem.
Anonymous   |March.09.2013
It doesn't matter what your spin is, the free market puts it all under the harsh honesty of a microscope. We are surrounded by beautiful, charming towns, with their own personalities. Benicia's small town charm and friendly people, suisun's rural atmosphere and farmers market's and napa and sonoma counties. Vallejo has trash, crime and uncivil behavior. We are known for that, because that is what happens here.
Anonymous   |March.09.2013
As with most cities that are economically depressed there is blight and generally areas in town that are inhabited by the poor. That doesn't qualify Vallejo as a ghetto. People who use the term to describe Vallejo most likely have never been to or seen a real ghetto. Some use the term as a derogitory slur. Considering the source, I'd say it was the latter.
Salty Dog   |March.09.2013
I hear you. Anonymous. As a relative newbie, those presumptions crossed my mind. Now that I live here and have met many fine people and not all lily-white, I prefer to eradicate those acting badly, without consideration and care for others, one at a time.....even if I have to beat them around the head to make a point! lol

But, seriously, there is much to be said for Vallejo and I prefer to beat that drum until it becomes, once more, obvious.
Anonymous   |March.09.2013
@salty

I like you and generally agree with you. But, if you asked most people who come to Vallejo once or twice what their opinion was, they'd probably agree with the ghetto description. Most won't stick around long enough to happen upon the few charming neighborhoods still treading water in the ghetto sludge.
Salty Dog   |March.09.2013
I must say "ghetto" is too general and probably not a good way to characterize an entire city jurisdiction.

How about we just say there seems to be one helluva pile of people who act badly toward,and without consideration or care for their fellow man.
Walk Like A Duck   |March.09.2013
@Anonymous, so we again see a change in position? You did previously state that ALL Vallejo was ghetto. Now you st te that Vallejo is FULL of ghettos? Is that different than filled with ghettos? If all the people are ghetto would that not include you too? Again, you sound conflicted.

And which dictionary are you using to define ghetto? If could not find one that used the reference "active destruction (crime, garbage, graffiti) caused by the people who live there.)
wharf rat not Mr. rat too form   |March.09.2013
How about an urbanesqe malformation or a garden for urbiculture, maby urbanites
displaying urbanity , urban urologists
"ABAG promotes urbanicide to Vallejo'ns"
the possibilities abound .
(wr)
ANONYMOUS:   |March.09.2013
WalMart? Winnco? vs Trader Joes? Nuggett? you want to compare people, like you show on the video?? Then ask the people like Wharf Rat; Salty Dog; Monica to sent in their pictures? You won't see much of a difference. You can make fun of the wart on my back, but you never look at yours. That video was taken on Halloween and has been show around the world (including Canada, Salty)and was used as entertainment, not to make fun of people. Vallejo is a good town, going through bad times. Our well being was not derived from the shipyard or the historical district. it grew and prospered from working
men and women, union and non union, who believed in a better life. Vallejo was a well respected City with a nice shopping district (Levee's; City of Paris; Woolworths; National Dollar; Tony Puleo's; etc, etc. etc. They did not leave because of WalMarts and Costco; they left because people wanted better prices, not quality in order to exist. New residents coming to Vallejo in the late90's and now into the 2000's, wanted to make Vallejo into something is wasn't and would never be. Nouve shopping; sailing on the waterfront; antique shops (30 of them) and it never happened. Those elected officials
during those times also never knew what Vallejo was and tried to change it....hence, we have what we have. Union are good, but jobs are better. Maybe if unions (and I have been a union member for over 50 years)would look in the mirror, they would see why our price of products keep going up???? Vallejo is and always was a WalMart, Costco, Target type of City...nothing wrong with that. They are the biggest business's in the world, so somebody must buy from them (and I will quarantee you most of those are closet union members). Let the free enterprise work, it has for over 200 years and it is
still the best system in the world. I will quarantee you if a Winnco or Big Walmart came to town and IF the Safeways and Raleys closed the SEICU/Retail Clerks would go to work for them, maybe for less (I am not sure) but they are working people and know how to adapt. The Joe Fellers of the World (the Union shills) would be out of work....good riddence...Think about it, this is what these blogs are for. BUT most likely anonymous bloggers will come back and accuse me of being a Vallejo Police Officer or an Henkette, but they are the ones that devlope ghetto's and slums, not the Gomes,
Davis'Browns, Sungas, they are just trying to respond, but won't be able to until they really figure out who Vallejo, California really is....Enjoy
know vallejo   |March.09.2013
mr. rat, yes, exactly my point. i like that, challenged urbanscape. in vallejo, it could be developmentally challenged urbanscape. LOL.
grey beard   |March.09.2013
Wise old man once said better to cast common sense to wind than to break wind
wharf rat   |March.09.2013
The word Ghetto is just so un-urbane its 2013 how about a more modern term like challenged urbanscape, remember Ghetto can also be a state of mind .
know vallejo   |March.09.2013
mr. dog and mr. rat, the anonymous that i'm referring to thinks vallejo is on the same level as the black hole of calcutta. she appears to be prone to hystrionics and juvenile name calling when you point out the faultiness of her logic. she also seems to have reading comprehension problems. this and her incredibly negative view of life make it difficult to have a conversation.
Anonymous   |March.09.2013
re: even with the many good and positive residents in Vallejo, the city often seems to be on the verge of ghetto status

For some reason I kinda like this edgy situation. The energy is very much alive and you need to be alert at all times. Unlike, say, Palo Alto where everything is in order, or part of Oakland where it looks like hopeless.

Vallejo can go either direction.
Anonymous   |March.09.2013
Everybody knows what a ghetto is. It's current definition. An area of blight, caused by the lack of upkeep and active destruction (crime, garbage, graffiti) caused by the people who live there. The people on this site do back flips and waste so much energy trying to convince people to ignore what they see and hear, and cast common sense to the wind. Vallejo is full of ghettos and ghetto people.
a wharf rant   |March.09.2013
Ghetto : a quarter of a city in which Jews are required to live : or a quarter of a City in which members of a minority group live because of social , legal , or economic pressure .

Slum : a highly congested area marked by deteriorated unsanitary buildings , poverty and social disorganization .

(Webster's)

Ok Folks what is it gona be ? Ghetto or Slum ? Ghetto's come in many forms Berkeley has a Gourmet Ghetto "a once thriving Neighborhood shopping district
that served all income levels" now a shi-shi gentrified Gourmet Ghetto priced beyond many .

Are We actually referring to two
types of urban containment zones divided by class ? Vallejo being a crazy amalgamation of socioeconomic and cultural/ethnic populations what would be the outcome if Vallejo embraced the
One bay plan or similar urban planning templates ? imo they are simply proposing to create modern day Slums and Ghetto's . Why the hell would We want to recreate problems of the past ? neighborhood's that youth feel compelled to escape from . Social behavior is often cyclical and influenced by things too numerous to mention here however there seems to be 8 to 12 year cycles this might be generational possibly
both the Parents and Children's behavior often mirror the influences of their respective generations social memberships/media exposure . So in retrospect We are probably about due for
a generational shift soon , without economic opportunities Vallejo's future will be bleak jobs jobs jobs screw ABAG
their mandates are crap their rhehtoric
contradicts its self . We will continue to be a Ship aground until City Government can get out of the welfare
business only the People can effect this direction, Government is not wise only expensive . Enough bitching about Trader Joes they are simply a
theme store Vallejo could support a better retail
operation that even has regional draw
a savvy Entrepreneur could carve out a great market here and maby expand Our population can support a real health/whole foods market and even a food court compliment .
Salty Dog   |March.09.2013
"... The additional tragedy of the big box saga is that it scuttled social roles and social relations in every American community. On top of the insult of destroying the geographic places we call home, the chain stores also destroyed people's place in the order of daily life, including the duties, responsibilities, obligations, and ceremonies that prompt citizens to care for each other. We can get that all back, but it won't be a bargain."

... James Howard Kunstler

And, I agree, even with the many good and positive residents in Vallejo, the city often seems to be on the verge of
ghetto status and for a part of that I blame the city Council for allowing health and safety ordinances to languish and collect dust.

Surely the culture of Wallmart and other big box stores cannot and should not replace the heritage and naval history that has shaped the character of current day Vallejo.
know vallejo   |March.09.2013
@walks like a duck, the ghetto anonymous talks out of both sides of her mouth. she also has a reading comprehension problem and the most negative life view i have ever encountered. be prepared for angry, juvenile name calling for disagreeing with her.
silasbarnabe   |March.09.2013
avatar I think we will need a webpage for Vallejo people of Walmart.
Walks Like A Duck   |March.09.2013
I thought you lived in "one of the nicer neighborhoods"? How does "having trash everywhere, graffiti on everything, drug dealers on every other corner, etc. etc." translate to your position that you live in a "nicer neighborhood"? You seemed to be conflicted. If ALL of Vallejo is a ghetto than how does one live in "one of the nicer neighborhoods"?
Anonymous   |March.09.2013
Um yes, it is a ghetto. Do you look around when you drive through town? We have all of the symptoms. Trash everywhere, graffiti on everything, drug dealers on every other corner, unusable school system, vocal anti law enforcement sentiment, ridiculously loud cars driving by every 5 minutes and parts of town that look like a third world country. That's what a ghetto is. If my mind was a ghetto, then I'd be perfectly okay with vallejo's current condition. Trader Joes does not open stores in ghettos. Grocery outlets and dollar stores do.
Anonymous   |March.09.2013
I do not like WalMart. I am one of "those people" who dislike their conduct with employees and communities, the crap they purchase from China, and sell cheap. I've never shopped at a WalMart and would prefer they don't open up where I live, but the problem we face is that WalMart is not the only bad "big box" employer.

WalMart is a bad employer. For some, though, they may be the only employer (seniors, HS degree only, or no HS degree) so WalMart gets away with their bad conduct. Is Target any better? Is WinCo any better? WalMart is not the only company that keeps hours
below "full time" so to avoid providing health care. The banks and non-union retailers have been doing that for over 20 years.
Anonymous   |March.09.2013
I am all for Walmart at the closed Mervyns. As far as the "Walmart Shoppers" goes, they don't look any worse/better than the Steam Punk competitors. We already tolerate union busting via our city council (Gomes, VIB et al) at least this union buster provides a paying job.
know vallejo   |March.09.2013
VALLEJO IS NOT A GHETTO. your mind is a ghetto, anonymous.
Anonmyous   |March.09.2013
@monica

I love trader joes too, but they are NEVER coming to vallejo. Never. These are the consequences of allowing our town to become a disgusting ghetto.
Salty Dog   |March.09.2013
" WalMart is the largest corporate employer in the USA and most of its rank-and-file store workers barely get paid enough to live on (those with children fall statistically below the official poverty line). They have no control over their working lives, are cruelly deprived of full-time status in order to avoid giving them health insurance, have been subject to lock-ins during late-shifts, and are forced to attend off-hour browbeating ("coaching" sessions with no pay. WalMart trumpets "made-in-America" propaganda around its stores but buys the majority of its merchandise
from foreign countries -- over $20 billion in merchandise from China every year, and more from other overseas vendors."

-Howard Kunstler

Time to celebrate?
wharf rat   |March.08.2013
@ Salt ya know awhile back wallmart took out life insurance policies on all their
Employees , with WM named as the sole beneficiary of such . The insured were not even eligible for burial costs let alone a casket WM employs so many Seniors
this plan must have looked real good to
actuarials and their bottom line . "talk
about leveraging ones profit centers"
Monica   |March.08.2013
Maybe now we'll get Trader Joe's...I mean, the neighboring towns with WalMart stores have a Trader Joe's store, too. Please, please, please, please, please...
Anonymous   |March.08.2013
food maxx, grocery outlet, target, winco, wal mart. all the same. all here. big deal. downtown is dead, nothing to compete or close down.
Anonymous No. 223   |March.08.2013
Purrfect! After shopping at EcoThrift, I'll just out to WalMart for some groceries. Just what we poor folks need.
Salty Dog   |March.08.2013
"...the chain store business model, and WalMart in particular, has destroyed local Main Street economies all over America, as well as the networks of social relations that went with these economies, in which local business owners employed local people and had to take responsibility for how they treated them. The damage to American civic life ought to be self-evident in the desolation of thousands of crumbling traditional downtowns, the extermination of a whole class of local business owners (and the local institutions they cared for), the funneling of business profits out of every local
community to a few corporate bank accounts in distant places, as well as the desecration of the once-rural landscape outside our towns, now a uniformly profaned wilderness of parking lots and the tilt-up warehouses of chain-store commerce."
- James Kuntsler
wharf rat   |March.08.2013
They serve a great nachos compleate with petrolium based cheese sauce on chips
made from reclaimed cardboard .
Bad Robot   |March.08.2013
Here's the Harlem Shake edition

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENizQ1A-DPE
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