Vallejo Visioning and Pot Luck

 

Citizens share food and ideas




By Marc Garman

3/11/13


This past Saturday afternoon more than one hundred Vallejo residents resisted the urge to bask in the Spring sunshine and instead attended the “Vallejo Visioning and Pot Luck” held in the old bank building downtown on Georgia St. The purpose of the meeting was to consider citizen priorities and suggestions with regards to the hopefully upcoming General Plan re-write and just facilitate an overall gathering of ideas to improve The City. Vallejo's current General Plan, which informs planning and development was written in 1983 which makes it more or less from the Pre-Cambrian period when giant trilobites swam the Mare Island Straits. Just really old, outdated and problematic...because it leaves us to more or less fake our way through a real plan for development etc.

 

Contributors sat at round tables placed the length of the bank lobby and exchanged ideas with guidance from volunteer facilitators. The event was largely organized through the various neighborhood watches and the Next Door program, mostly seeming to encompass West Vallejo neighborhoods. Certainly a good start which will hopefully get even better as more groups and neighborhoods participate.


Each table covered a specific topic and had several laptop computers each, which were in turn networked so suggestions could be projected on a screen for all to see to later be compiled into a single document and presented to City Council. The idea being to give citizens a chance to get ahead of the anticipated herd of smarmy and supercilious (if the past is any indication) sub-contractors likely to descend on City Hall when the General Plan re-write does finally go forward. The networked laptop technique, courtesy of current Planning Commissioner Tony Adams, who describes the process as a,“visioning and policy creation exercise,” seemed to work quite well with Adams periodically ringing a large cow bell to give the “change table” signal to participants.

 

 

 

And speaking of not-so-smarmy etc. denizens of City Hall, Vallejo's new Planning Manager Andrea Ouse was present for the whole event, which ran from 12-4 PM. She seemed engaged and genuinely enthused as she circulated around the room dipping into the ferment of ideas at the various tables...which covered:


 

 

  • Economic Development

  • Mare Island

  • Historic Preservation

  • Open Space

  • Circulation and Transportation

  • Housing

  • Environment – noise, climate, air quality

  • Safety & Law Enforcement

  • Land use & Open Space

  • Downtown & Waterfront Plans


Plus several “Wild Card” tables that fell into less easily categorizable or more open topics:


  • Heritage & Preservation

  • Quality of Life

  • Citizen Priorities

  • Open (anything goes category)



Spirited discussions went back and forth over plates of food touching both positive and negative aspects of Vallejo. Ideas on how to promote Vallejo's historic character and homes, ideas for Mare Island such as a solar farm, how to promote industry, rail service and the direction of future economic development were among the many ideas.


One theme that seemed to be often repeated was the (let's face it) somewhat battered image of Vallejo. Even City Hall recognizes that both in perception and reality, we certainly have some challenging issues. They have been talking about bringing in consultants (yes, those) to help with “branding.” Never liked that term. Can't help but think of some leathery faced wrangler with a hot glowing poker heading for my...um...but I digress. Yikes!


Bottom line...It was great to see so many folks turn out for this event with lots of ideas. Hopefully this sort of community enthusiasm will continue to grow and include more neighborhoods. Especially after all Vallejo has been through over the past few years, clearly a lot of people are ready to devote time and effort in re-inventing this place. When the “branding” and other consultants show up, they need to hear from the citizens!


As the event wound down, one of the organizers, Brendan Riley thanked everyone for their attendance but with the reminder, “You cannot let up!”


I agree. Or as they used to say in the Bronx (back in the day): DON'T MOVE. IMPROVE!!

 

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Anonymous   |March.15.2013
Good ideas WR, there's no reason we shouldn't take some "risks" here. We need to break out in a big way; some kind of paradigm shift could be very healthy for Vallejo government.
wharf rat   |March.15.2013
The district concept has its ups and downs but is worthy of discussion , another idea is to have revolving temporary (non voting) Council participants this could be done by district to ensure every part of Town has a voice on the dias at the very least this this could inject some humor into the meetings . Other Charter Cities
do many things differently such as elect
the School Superintendant or have up to 9 People on Council . Council Members could select "area" representatives to
report on their parts of Town such as is done by some Neighborhood Associations
this would improve
representation . I suggest exploring other Cities Governmental structures some are quite interesting .
know vallejo   |March.15.2013
i think you have a point about the nextdoor website. however, if i understand corectly that website was instrumental in the saturday event. with that in mind, why can't someone from the east side run now? why do they need district elections?
True Representation   |March.15.2013
@know vallejo
re: "rarely has someone from the east side of I-80 run for council in vallejo. why do you think that is?"

That's anyone's guess. Nextdoor website with its emphasis on "neighborhood" involvement may just be the impetus to encourage greater civic involvement in the long run. Now would be the time for City Council to put the taxpayers first for a change, by upgrading not only district representation, but to also follow the rest of Solano County cities in even year election cycle.
know vallejo   |March.15.2013
@true representation, rarely has someone from the east side of I-80 run for council in vallejo. why do you think that is? several very nice housing developments with plenty of educated, professionals living there. why don't they run now?
Good Work   |March.15.2013
re:primarily a lack of business development in town.

re: that can only be addressed politically by City Council district
representation.

You think business will move in town once we have City Council district representation?

What a joke!
Good Work   |March.15.2013
re: isn't going to fully solve the simultaneous problems Vallejo has ongoing, primarily a lack of business development in town, as well as a fully staffed Economic Development Department at City Hall.

Nothing is going to FULLY solve our problems but people taking the initiative and working together is a good start.

No need to have a bigger EDD right now. Business growth is organic based on business consideration. A lot of crime and no spending money is the main reason business will not move here. A lot of crime and bad school is why decent families moved out.

Democracy is based on
participation. Everyone has a vote. Formally dividing the city will not serve anyone but the bureaucracy.
True Representation   |March.15.2013
This "Vallejo Visioning" thing as well as "Participatory Budgeting" isn't going to fully solve the simultaneous problems Vallejo has ongoing, primarily a lack of business development in town, as well as a fully staffed Economic Development Department at City Hall. If anything, Vallejo's involvement in the Nextdoor neighborhood website, and the number of so-called "neighborhoods" already, clearly indicates how Vallejo is divided and sub-divided and compartmentalized into silos of thought and action that can only be addressed politically by City Council district
representation. The Charter Review Committee, if they didn't do so, should have recommended political district representation as one of their recommendations to the City Council.
Moving Forward   |March.14.2013
@wrong side of town, I was referring to the negative comments that resorted to name calling, "adultress, drunks" labeling and assumptions about an entire groups of people "these folks don't have a grasp of the issues", without even having a clue as to what was discussed or who attended. Next step plans should include more outreach to more people in neighborhood out side of tjose in attendence. I heard no objection to that. I live in the central east side of town and I was invited and attended. I addressed the fact that not all parts of the city were in attendence but I
also understood that this was a first step.
Salty Dog   |March.14.2013
I,too, agree... a great post from Anonymous.

I like "organic". Think natural, think neighborhood, think basic communal values,think warm passions,think acting locally.

All of which is somewhat of an inconvenience to the systems approach "urban planner".
wharf rat   |March.14.2013
@ anon yes good post "urban planning" is an oxymoronic - rhetorical term the implication being that there is a "plan"
when in fact they seldom reveal the "real plan" nor who wants it and who benefits
from it just that there is a "plan" one of unquestionable wisdom and forethought anointed with terminology such as "smart growth" or "planned development" meaningless rhetorical terms however subliminal largely effective . A small percentage of analytical thinkers can clear the crap from the content this often leaves the composition lifeless

and naked . Try this drill , delete all
rhetorical , assumptive , non-factional content from a document then review it
or what is left the results can be amazing ! I recently subjected a portion of the (one bay plan) to this drill the results were remarkable for further fun one can insert their own rhetoric in place of the wordsmiths . Once subjected
to this digital enema many of these creative writing ventures show the total
lack of fiber and actual content .
Anonymous   |March.14.2013
Urban planning is lot simpler than you think. Cities evolve in an organic way from the small, additive actions and decisions of ordinary citizens who have a common stake in how their joint venture supports their lives. The cities we most admire never had a grand plan. Little trading villages at crossroads grew organically into great cities. Most people, whether they live in Vallejo's old town or on the newer east side want the same thing...a community that is safe, supportive, where kids can grown up to fly on their own wings and families can make a decent living. No one, from any
neighborhood, wants to live in a thug culture where you can't let your kids go out and play. Fear is a powerful motivator. The only beneficiaries of Vallejo's "farm the poor" economic strategy which leads automatically to to increased crime (sadly) because people without hope or a future do desperate things. They become feral and, as the Solano County Community Corrections Partnership says, their "thinking is messed up" and they have "poor impluse control". Which means the thugs can't empathize with their victims. This is not a matter of increasing participation
because every family trying to live in Vallejo (except the thugs) wants the same quality of life. There are those that benefit from the existing system but they don't live here. They do, however, post frequently here and on Topics to try to stir up discourd and play various neighborhoods off on one another so they can continue to suck Federal entitlement money. I am talking about the landlords, realtors, attorneys, prison guard unions, public safety unions, bureaucrats, social service providers, group home operators and others that take their cut. But the actual costs of your increased
insurance premiums, replacing your TV, the deductables, the reduced quality of life City services because the increasing public safety costs externalize costs to us citizens. This is really simple. Allow normal citizens to use their few extra dollars to paint their house rather than pay for cameras, security systems and extra gas to drive out of town to shop.

As a new General Plan becomes a reality with all of the opportunities for public involvement so ALL of Vallejo neighborhoods can be heard, the attempts of the current beneficiaries of the system to play various groups off on one another
and create chaos so they can keep their advantage will become more and more obvious. Don't fall for it. Just because some residents of Old Town have the knowledge, skills, aptitudes and passion to go to battle against entrenched interests that have made Vallejo their own personal ATM, doesn't make them the enemy.
wharf rat   |March.14.2013
@ wrong side of town no need to be concerned at this stage ya gota start somewhere , many Cities have Council districts in order to ensure equal representation City wide while this can be divisive at times it is a good conversation to have
wrong side of town   |March.14.2013
quote:
There will always be obstructionist who will word block any ideas that don't conform to their ideas.
Word block as opposed to actually making an effort to participate in any discussion in a meanful way.
The city is full of them and they are welcome to their opinions. It doesn't change anything. We will continue to move forward.

No, those of a different opinion than the vocal citizenry will continue to be regarded as irrelevant when it comes to the decision making process about the future of Vallejo.

What you really are saying is that no matter
how valid a stated opposing opinion is expressed, it most likely will not be considered unless it meets with the view of a few, like yourself.

Having participation from more Vallejo neighborhoods would be the preferred way to go, but is unlikely because no changes will come to their neck of the woods.
The push to revitalize will come to a select place, mainly around City Hall and the adjacent neighborhood filled with the perceived intellectual of this town. The rest of Vallejo can be considered collateral damage one has to expect when a whole lot of money is thrown at a problem that
can not be resolved easily or permanently.

Simply knocking a few heads together while sharing food will not begin to solve this cities shortcomings. Unless an invitation to a sharing of opinions is extended to all Vallejo residents and I may have missed that, this will remain a one sided affair.

Having an open mind about the opinions of others without dismissing their point of view probably would also be appropriate in the whole feel good scenario.
Moving Forward   |March.14.2013
There will always be obstructionist who will word block any ideas that don't conform to their ideas of what should be happening in Vallejo. Word block as opposed to actually making an effort to participate in any discussion in a meanful way. It's very similiar to a young child that is reluctant to try new things. Mostly driven by fear but sometimes driven by undefined stubbornness that comes from simply being a child with child like ways. Stomping their feet and making noise in the background.

The city is full of them and they are welcome to their opinions. It doesn't change anything. We will
continue to move forward. The city has had over 16 years to try it their way and everyone can see the results of that same old same old thinking that came from "the experts". Now it's time to hear from the stake holders. The people who like their city and actually willing to get involved and make the effort to help our city. This forward movement won't be deterred by unproductive obstructionist.
Anonymous   |March.14.2013
The truth about our current situation is ugly. I realize it's hard for some of you to accept. I don't think anyone has a problem with concerned citizens getting together. Will it make any difference? Probably not. Just because some of us are fed up with our stagnant town, doesn't mean we aren't productive and positive. I'm very involved with keeping the slummy elements out of my neighborhood. I'm also sick of driving home into a ghetto cesspool. Sometimes things are little more complicated than being "positive" or negative.
Anonymous   |March.14.2013
It's sad that some people take issue with every article here and can't deal with the topic other than call names and tear down the work of others. What's wrong with motivated people taking time out of their day to meet and share ideas? People who actually care for their city and willing to help move our city forward as opposed to those who only sit at home and complain? If you are afraid your opinions won't be heard why not go to one of these meetings and participate instead of spreading your negativity?
Anonymous   |March.14.2013
"What kind of strange person obsesses over peoples comments on an obscure website?"

The way I look at it Jessica these folks don't have a grasp of the issues and/or can't articulate them in a coherent post. So, they opt for juvenile posts that demonize people who don't agree with their predetermined view of reality. Notice what all these juvenile posts focus on? They're focused on the identity of the posters, looking for a way to tear people down personally. What's happening here is decades of liberal policies and politics are imploding. So many of the projects and policies these
people have created are now understood to be abject failures but liberals are so heavily invested in their failed ideology they have nowhere to turn. They're trapped in a snare of their own making and they're desperate to find a way out so they lash out with personal attacks. Sad really.
Jessica   |March.14.2013
What kind of strange person obsesses over peoples comments on an obscure website? Then makes up arbitrary rules of their own and then runs around yelling at everybody who posts comments trying to figure out who they are. Get a life whacko. Vallejo is a ghetto and I'm not the only one who feels that way. I know it drives you crazy to hear the truth but maybe you should take a break from the Internet, take some of your meds and breathe deeply. I'm going to continue to post whenever I like, so you'd probably better get used to it.
Jessica   |March.14.2013
No you creepy, obsessive weirdo, that isn't me you're talking to either. You see racism everywhere and now you've transferred your weird state of mind onto me. There's something really wrong with you.
Walk Like A Duck   |March.13.2013
Must be a full moon of sorts for trolls. Quack...
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
Over on "slopix" there are o e hundred sixty thousand comments on same sex marriage. Fourteen thousand + comments on marrijuanna. These are the minds you want reinventing Vallejo?
Walks Like A Duck   |March.13.2013
Quackers...
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
No doubt he is an idiot. But he meets your "citizen" criteria for contributing. Hence, my argument for the 'reinvention' of Vallejo to be put in the hands of people educated an experienced in that field. Listening to your rage rant I'm not so sure you should have any input. Sound a bit too emotionally unstable
Walks Like A Duck   |March.13.2013
Quackers was feeling ignored because people were ignoring her "ghetto" diatribe so she has spread her hate to all threads. Ignore the angry and bitter lemon sucking hater. Quack quack quack......
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
You are as stupid as they come. Don't bring that idiot into any conversation here. No one cares about what you think about kursham. If you want to worship a convicted criminal who has been arrested five times, had seven restraining orders placed on him by a judge, who talks about women's body parts, threatened Marc and who abuses his girlfriend and hates women in general, that is a clear indication that you are a warped individual. Do not invoke that sick person's name on this site. Go back to slopix and continue to soil their litter box of a comment board.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
and BTW. Sam cares too
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
What? They didn't wear a large red "A" on their shirts/blouses?
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
Those "experts" whose fat fee depends on giving their employers (City staff) exactly the answer they want? That is how we got into this mess. A lot of those "citizens" are actually "experts" who usually get paid lot but, since they live here and care about their community, they are sharing their "expertise" for free. Pretty good deal. I didn't see any of those nogoodniks you reference at the FixerMixer.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
The citizens amount to adultresses, drunks, philanderers and property owners that will benefit from there own suggestions. I'd prefer listening to the "experts" with degrees and experience in "reinventing" a city.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
Sam is as Squeeky wheel as you can get ( citizen). Worth listening to?
@anonymous   |March.13.2013
change your posting name with each thread or even with each different position you take if you're that paranoid. it is for clarification, not stalking. generally speaking, the people at this site don't resort to juvenile tactics like stealing someone else's posting name.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
It doesn't matter what the posting handle says. I can post as Bob and then someone else can come along and post as Bob. The posting handle is useless unless your trying to stalk someone and attack them personally, like the dysfunction people who stalk Sam. Talk to ideas and opinions, not imaginary "Sams".
@anonymous   |March.13.2013
please think of a name, any name. the one you wish your parents named you. your alter ego. your pets name. your favorite novel/movie/television character. anything. all the anonymouses are confusing.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
Sorry, add as many spokes to that wheel so as to have a fair share of ideas from as many people as possible. Giving the citizens the opportunities like this is just the start.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
And who better to listen to than the citizens (squeaky wheels) that wish to participate in the future of our city. The goal should be to add as many spokes to that wheel.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
Reinventing Vallejo? If all we hire are people that tell us what we 'want' to hear, we'll be here forever. Hopefully the vetting process for the experts is not just another step in validating a preconceived agenda by a loud squeaky wheel.
Anonymous   |March.13.2013
"
"One theme that seemed to be often repeated was the (let's face it) somewhat battered image of Vallejo. Even City Hall recognizes that both in perception and reality, we certainly have some challenging issues. They have been talking about bringing in consultants (yes, those) to help with
wharf rat   |March.12.2013
In respect of the foundation and formation of this Site I suggest the time is neigh to expand the dialog and go outside of the box !!! Everyone
Please research the Kingdom of Butann .
Many might not agree with the Kingdom's
edicts however they are not without merit
just consider if Vallejo could even enact
a small component of this concept .. Just consider Vallejo adopting a vision
even somewhat like this small Country has done .. Food for thought , and most
tasty with some real great outcomes possible with sooo many great recipies
from the masses .......
Positive People   |March.12.2013
Do refresjing yo be in a room with so many positive thinking people. This is the type of movement that puts aVallejo in a positive light. People offering suggestions and solutions instead of whining. Viva Vallejo!
Monica   |March.12.2013
It was fascinating to learn that various neighborhoods had been holding parallel conversations over so many of the same topics. The guiding principles of the meeting were "Positive, Forward Thinking, Citizen Leadership." I'm looking forward to the next such event and I sincerely hope more representatives from the east side, South Vallejo, Country Club Crest, and Carriage Oaks will join in the efforts.

DON'T MOVE! IMPROVE!!!
Vallejo Citizen   |March.12.2013
I love the motto (Don't Move, Improve)! That should be the City of Vallejo saying!!
Clarke Johnston   |March.12.2013
Positive citizen engagement/networking. "Atta boys 'n girls" to everyone who attended.
Thank you   |March.12.2013
Thank you Marc, there is so much beauty in this city it's great to have a news source like this to report on it.
Salty Dog   |March.12.2013
Next Door Neighbor is a great web site for hearing residential concerns and for getting to know neighbors.

If we are going to improve Vallejo, it will be through neighbors taking back the streets, one block at a time and by focusing Council on dominant neighborhood generated concerns,
Great ideas from great people!   |March.12.2013
So many great and constructive ideas came out of this; we'll have a report soon. In the meantime, in looking through the raw input, a couple really wonderfully creative ideas have jumped out.

One is to have a pothole-counting contest, the grand prize would be a new set of 4 tires! I love it -- specific, creative, humorous, and productive! Another great idea is for some sort of mini-ferry or water taxi to cross the river from the ferry building, opening MI up to more tourism.

Numerous tables suggested using some of the vacant waterfront land for play fields, e.g., soccer, volleyball, etc.
Downtown really needs some sort of play space.

In all, there were too many great ideas to even begin to hint of them all here. Stay tuned for the wrap-up report! Anne
Cathy Jensen   |March.12.2013
Good story Marc -- thanks so much! It was really and amazing meeting -- so much energy -- and so much LOVE for Vallejo!
Jim Davis   |March.12.2013
Nice story, Marc. Thank you. It is essential that citizens step up like this. More and more good people finally make it uncomfortable for thugs. Love, Jim
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