Vallejo Cops go FULL FRONTAL

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in Times Herald

By Marc Garman

12/14/13 

The Vallejo Police Officers Association (VPOA) is cranking up the fear and intimidation with a full page ad in today's Vallejo Times Herald (SEE AD FULL SIZE HERE) in a last minute effort to derail the impending yet reasonable downward changes to their pay and benefits likely to be imposed by the Vallejo City Council on Monday.  So far, all other employee groups in The City have accepted meaningful cuts to help keep Vallejo on the path to long term fiscal solvency.

Firefighters (post Henke), Management (finally) and IBEW workers (repeatedly) have all given. They have all chosen, even if not gladly, to step up and be part of the solution, rather than part of the continuing saga of fiscal deficit in Vallejo. Vallejo's police received raises while The City was in bankruptcy as part of a plan put forward by former City Manager Joe Tanner, primarily to diminish the cohesion of employee groups as legal expenses mounted rapidly on both sides of the courtroom. VPOA took the raises (read bait) abandoned their legal battle with The City and left their fellow union members to fend for themselves. It would seem that this attitude of irrational exceptionalism persists.

The bought and paid for councilmembers (Sunga, Bartee, Wilson and Hannigan) who approved the raises for VPOA promised an increase in police services. Predictably, exactly the opposite happened. (Osby voted yes as well, but he is not funded by the union special interests.)

Once again, VPOA is demonstrating that they believe they are a special class and thus exempt from the fiscal impact other employees in The City have felt. We have seen full page ads before, propaganda magazines and glossy fear filled fliers from VPOA. This not about safety. It is about money, political clout, indifference and greed. When you consider that Vallejo cops make around 30% more than FBI or DEA agents and have much better retirements, it becomes clear that their pay structure is about who has the most well funded political machine rather than competence or risk associated with the job.

We all have to work together to get our city on the right path. Most Vallejo police don't live in Vallejo. Regardless, many are devoted to Vallejo and have my respect, but there still remains an old guard that revels in a sense of entitlement and sees our City merely as “The Dirty Office,” A place filled with losers who need to shut up and pay. These attitudes are changing under the new leadership of Police Chief Joseph Kreins albeit slowly.  

We do need more police on the streets in Vallejo, but we need to keep The City from a second fiscal collapse in order to do so. A failure to move forward with reforms to Vallejo's police compensation will lead to smaller budgets for public safety and everything else. City Manager Dan Keen understands this and likely a council majority does as well.

Vallejo citizens have felt the pain of The City's fiscal problems over the past years. Other employee groups have as well. It is time that Vallejo's police step up and become part of our recovery.

Here are links to previous articles comparing Vallejo PD to FBI and DEA agents: 

FBI: https://ibvallejo.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1254

DEA: https://ibvallejo.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1282 

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tramky   |December.16.2013 I don't read the Times-Herald, so there is no fear here. I don't spend my money on biased media sources, which is why I don't read the New York Times, either. Am I missing something? Perhaps, but it's relatively trivial and I don't need to enrich liars and manipulators.

TH Pro-Police Bias   |December.16.2013 As many have aptly noted, the TH has erroneously over-reported Vallejo's "crime" statistics. Police-inolved shootings (3 of them), are NOT homicides. Plus, there is another death that has still not been categorized. That would leave the homicide count at 22. Not great, but less than the TH reports. Additional bias in the TH reporting is to describe Vallejo's structural deficit a "so-called" deficit, and to say that Measure A was "narrowly approved." Apparently the TH does not understand that when your expenses exceed your revenue, you have a deficit -- even if you manage to find special one-time funds to cover the expenses. That's like balancing a household budget by having someone pay off your VISA bill. Once the gift goes away, you're still in trouble. Regarding Measure A, it was approved by a greater margin that Measure B -- but the TH does not say that Measure B was "narrowly approved." For that matter, Osby's one-vote margin in his first election is also not continually called out. You can maybe excuse York for being a junior reporter, but her editor ought to catch and correct these obvious mis-statements. Infuriating!

Really   |December.16.2013 @V Town Vet Your disdain towards the residents of Vallejo clearly shows though. A hell hole is where we are living? Thank you so much for the disrespect. I'm so happy that I am paying your salary, your benefits, and your pension and health, along with that of your family (if you have one). Oh, please, don't thank me for helping you and your family put a roof over your head; I'll just wait for the threat of gun intimidation from you at the city council meeting tonight. You want my money, but not my opinion on how it should be spent? I hope you are a minority in our police department. Why don't you reveal yourself, and then I and others can monitor your work and performance and write the P0lice Chief and City Manager accordingly. Oh, and I want to thank you because in part, based on the numbers of homocides, your department contributed to 3 this year and 6 last year, and probably multiple lawsuits against the City (taking money away from our services) from these 9 police homocides. YOur a gem.

Do Numbers Matter?   |December.16.2013 The FBI web site recommends against using its data for ranking because these rankings lead to simplistic and/or incomplete analyses that often create misleading perceptions adversely affecting cities and counties, along with their residents.[4]?The FBI web site also recommends against using its data to judge how effective law enforcement agencies are, since there are many factors that influence?crime rates?other than law enforcement.[5]In November 2007, the executive board of theAmerican Society of Criminology?(ASC) went further than the FBI itself, and approved a resolution opposing not only the use of the ratings to judge police departments, but also opposing any development of city crime rankings from FBI Uniform Crime Reports (UCRs) at all. The resolution opposed these rankings on the grounds that they "fail to account for the many conditions affecting crime rates" and "divert attention from the individual and community characteristics that elevate crime in all cities", though it did not provide sources or further elaborate on these claims. The resolution states the rankings "represent an irresponsible misuse of the data and do groundless harm to many communities" and "work against a key goal of our society, which is a better understanding of crime-related issues by both scientists and the public"

Union counts cops as murders   |December.16.2013 There have NOT Been 26 homicides in Vallejo. Rachael of the Times Herald always includes the three Police shootings and one suspected homicide in her stats. So far the cops have not been charged with anything. Now what is rely sick is that the scare add/letter letter written by the Vallejo Police Union Bosses states that 26 MURDERS took place in Vallejo this year. If this statement is true then we have 3 or more murders in our police department.Well done Matt...I'm happy to know that you don' represent my union-in fact you don't represent your union very well either.

@v town vet   |December.15.2013 I'm sorry, but if your attitude is that Vallejo is a hell hole, then don't let the door hit you, trust me, we won't miss you. You should not be working here. As for calling the City Council jackasses simply because they are open to a contract that isn't complete financial suicide, see my above comments. Again, if your attitude is so disrespectful, you should not be working for the city. Finally, courage takes many forms. If you've got a gun in your hand, courage isn't strictly necessary, is it? You have power. One form of courage is doing the right thing even when you don't have overwhelming force on your side. And by the way, if you cannot respect the courage of public participation and civic action, again, you shouldn't be here. Bottom-line, if Vallejo is so disagreeable, don't let us stop you, enjoy your next job elsewhere.

v town resident   |December.15.2013 @v town vet: "Cut our numbers all you want, just give us our money." You reap what you sow. Just so you know (not that I think you'll ingest this in any meaningful way) many people are afraid to speak up at city council at times like these because of cops like you (and thank god they're not all like you). We don't want to be identified by you because you have authority and may just pull us over for something one day and god forbid remember our faces. We've seen you at Council meetings before, hand on your gun looking so "courageous" amongst all of us unarmed citizens who didn't agree with you. We damn well have a right to judge you when you act like an as$hole in our city. We are paying your salary and benefits, and don't forget that. You don't think citizens should be supportive of our elected representatives who are standing up for us? You think you deserve our loyalty and admiration more than they do just because you wear blue? I haven't seen a full page ad from them trying to scare us, or huge billboards, or campaign materials full of fear and lies. Usually its elected officials who lack integrity, but in Vallejo it's the VPOA that is morally bankrupt. And I know this will be hard for you to comprehend, but courage comes in many colors, you don't own it. Courage includes mental or moral strength to persevere, withstand hostility, to stand up for civil and human rights or unpopular causes. Nelson Mandela had courage. And MLK Jr. And the suffragettes. And anybody who has stood up to oppression and thuggery and said "No." So yeah, for us regular citizens, standing up before a crowd of angry cops with guns, especially truculent temper tantrum throwing cops like you, to take a stand for what is right for our city, that takes courage.

v town vet   |December.15.2013 You guys are building up the courage to speak at city council? Why? Those jackasses are your heroes. If its that hard for you to stand before your gods where in the hell do get off judging our soldiers in blue? You don't know what courage is. Courage is pulling a shift in this hell hole knowing you have no backup when the **** hits the fan but saying your prayers and doing it anyway. That's what courage is.

Anonymous   |December.15.2013 Anyone who wants to work as a police officer in a high crime city not only has Vallejo as an option, but also Richmond, Oakland, San Jose, Los Angeles, Compton, Nevada City, Emerville, Stockton and San Bernardino, for starters. They can also check out Orville, a town between Chico and Yuba City of 15,000 where 14.8 violent crimes for every 1000 people occur. (In comparison, Oakland has 15.3 violent crimes per every 1000 people) Vallejo has never been Kensington or Larkspur or the like. There is serious crime here on a daily basis and those who want to work here as a police officer know what to expect crime wise. All law enforcement has a serious and dangerous job, and Vallejo is no different. This a given. Vallejo's high crime rating did not just begin with BK; Vallejo has been classified as one of the highest crime cities for many , many years. If a person wants a job here but is expecting Kensington or Larkspur, they need to be rejected from the applicant pool. The issue is bigger than just the police department, If we don't figure out how to AFFORD a police force of 110 to 125 or more, without running a deficit, we may as well just shut the dept. down.

Clarke Johnston   |December.15.2013 Having more officers on the force has only a moderate influence on the murder rate. That occurs through activities that grab potential murderers through other policing actions: Task forces aimed at Narcotics, Gangs, Crime Suppression, and so on. Sadly, these units have been sharply curtailed or outright eliminated during our bankruptcy years. More officers on the street will not reduce the number of available firearms, or influence those scummy perps inclined to use them. But, pro-active policing CAN put heat on jumpy neighborhoods through increased presence. We all know that Vallejo abounds in excitable burgs: South Vallejo with Magazine Street, Pine, Cherry, etc. Central Vallejo with "State" streets along the Sonoma/29 corridor, Beverly Hills, and of course the Crest. Pockets of zippy apartments also lurk behind Springstown, bringing their own trouble. With our reduced force, officers are in these areas only as a response to an urgent call, not showing the flag in a way that "Community Policing" hopes for. Now, as the recent slaying in front of the Kings Market shows, Vallejo hosts a hostile, upset, and downright antagonistic community. The crowd was ugly in it's behavior and tone. Officers here know this, and I suggest that after time, despite contacts with good people in our town, that this hostility permeates even the best in uniform, and they develop a bad attitude toward the community. This exhibits itself during contract negotiations. Matt Mustard HAS to know the feeble state of affairs for the Vallejo budget. Yet, for him and fellow officers to continue as if the economy never took a dump, to continue to leverage the public through fear, is bad form. Frankly, uncalled for. I support the VPD, and respect the dangerous work they embark upon every day. This town ain't Kensington, Lafayette, or Larkspur. The odds of an officer having to pull a weapon in Vallejo must be orders of magnitude higher than in those more bucolic villages. This is well known and established. But the fact remains that Vallejo must balance the books. We're bleeding red ink for two years out of bankruptcy now, and as another poster correctly notes: The Detroit case will have ramifications across the nation. The handwriting is on the wall. Further, public sentiment is growing weary of unions pushing constantly for more, more, more. California is crazy Democratic, hence fertile agar for continued growth, "good bargaining times" for unions. Even so, the temperature/mood of the public is cooling. We HAVE to reach a point where the budget is sustainable. It won't be easy, fun, nice, or comfortable. But, Vallejo cannot afford to give away the store, either. Times up.

Really   |December.15.2013 I think the point made already on this blog needs to be highlighted repeatedly on Monday night: VPOA got what it wanted with the last contract: IT RECEIVED RAISES, with no cuts/changes with benefits, health, CalPERS. WHAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THAT CONTRACT WAS APPROVED BY DAVIS, SUNGA, HANNIGAN, WILSON AND BARTEE: 1. All police officers that reached retirement age RETIRED and left the VPD under the lucrative contract affirmed while in BK, depleting the force. 2. Homicide rates in 2010 were: 17 3. Homicide rates in 2011 were: 18 4. Homicide rates in 2012 were: 21 5. Homicide rates in 2013 (to date):26 So, VPOA got what it wanted, and Vallejo's homicide rates HAVE INCREASED EVERY YEAR SINCE.

Anonymous   |December.15.2013 @So won't Vallejo be able to afford more cops if the pay rate goes down? Not necessarily. In private industry we prefer to pay fewer employees overtime because after all costs are accounted for, the additional overhead of more bodies eliminates any saving you try to achieve. This is what people are not understanding about Vallejo's situation. Tinkering with the labor contracts, making 5% cuts here and there will result in marginal cost reductions in year end expenses. Adding more bodies could easily eclipse these types of savings. Vallejo has a completely violent and dysfunction demographic. This drives the need for high levels of service and that is what drives public safety costs. We need data on crime and who is committing it and that needs to be presented to HUD and the ABAG clowns. We can't host any more poor people. We're way beyond our capacity to deal with the poor that we have now.

wharf rat   |December.15.2013 Top step for a uniformed CHP patrol Officer is $ 84,036 per year .

Anonymous   |December.15.2013 Same ad, second day. What, $10,000 for advertising now Matty? Throwing money down the drain. But I guess the cops can afford that with their $200,000 salaries/bennies. $10,000 is chump change. Still a waste. That contract is going to be placed where the sun doesn't shine on Matty boy.

Anonymous   |December.15.2013 Yes, VPOA and the retires should be thanking their employer/former employer for taking reasonable, intelligent steps to become fiscally solvent and sustainably so. Watch the Detroit decision. If it stands that pensions can be cut in bankruptcy, then the retirees should be running Matty up a flagpole for trying to bankrupt Vallejo again. He's jeopardizing their pensions. And they've already retired, at least current workers can keep working to make up for any cuts. I wish we could just fire every old guard officer who is following the Henke scorched earth policy. And Mus-tard? He's the new Henke mini-me. He really needs to go. He hates it here so much, he should just leave, nobody will try to stop him!

tramky   |December.15.2013 It's really quite simple. Until payroll costs of police & fire are about 55% of the general fund budget, this town will ALWAYS have massive fiscal problems. This began a LONG time ago, but the problem can not be permitted to exist any longer. After leaving bankruptcy this town has put up 2 deficit budgets, and that deficit is only getting LARGER. When CalPers gets through with California municipalities in a year or two, expect more Cal cities to be in bankruptcy court. Someone commented that police officers cost about $200,000 a year, but I believe that number if closer to $300,000. So 3 cops cost nearly a million bucks a year. Affordable? No. Vallejo taxpayers making cops millionaires in a few years of work can NOT continue.

JJH   |December.15.2013 So won't Vallejo be able to afford more cops if the pay rate goes down? Wouldn't that help with crime? The VPOA should be thanking their employers for taking steps to put additional cops on the street, right? Instead, it looks like their attitude is still the same as it was a few years ago: They don't care about safety - they just want to be paid.

1990s crime stats? Fire them.   |December.15.2013 I have heard that during the 1990s, our violent crime rate was higher -- as well as police staffing levels. Anyone have the details handy? This would be important to mention on Monday night. The other completely ironic point is that the inflammatory ad implies that if the police get what they want, the crime levels go down. However, our current policing situation AND CRIME STATS are AFTER the police got what they wanted with the last contract. I say we stick with the Vallejo city plan to get contracts and pensions affordable, so we can have more police on the street. According to a recent article in the San Jose Mercury news, Vallejo's contracts for police are the most expensive in the entire Bay Area. We also know that on average, we pay 50% more per officer than Fairfield & Vacaville. Further, the City of Vallejo has something like $230 million in unfunded liabilities for pension and retirement benefits, and as I recall, it would take something like $300 million for our streets to be pothole-free. We simply don't have the money for a police force that thinks it should be the only funded entity in the city. If the VPOA thinks affordable contracts will "destroy" the police, maybe they are right -- maybe all of those who think that should just resign, Vallejo could start fresh with a police force that is committed to protect and serve, not intimidate and manipulate. The ad is an absolute outrage. In order to be effective, the Vallejo police has to be in partnership with the community they serve. VPOA has forgotten that. They also have proved that they are not bargaining in good faith. In the private sector, stances like that in the ad (plus the billboard, and the intransigent, "we just want our money" would be seen as grossly disrespectful, if not flagrantly insubordinate. "Free speech" or not, you would be fired in the private sector for such provocation -- and rightly so, as such an attitude would obviously prevent someone from doing their job. I used to believe in the police, but this kind of attitude and behavior makes me ill. I know we cannot fire those behind the ad, but I wish we could, as clearly they are not in partnership with the city and its citizens.

wharf rat   |December.15.2013 The VPOA just screwed Mayor Davis . In order for him to conduct a functional meeting he might have to clear the Chambers , in order to handle the Peoples business . It is entirely possible that when Our Police are paid , representative of Our actual , economy like the median income of Vallejo We will see a return to local - living Police Officers with a relationship to Their Community . Are the highest paid Police Officers the best ?? or are the one's with local connections superior ? A prime example is Council Member Sampayan ! a retired Police Sargent and a crime prevention Guru . Now a City Council Member , who is an "energizer bunny" that never tires from contributing to his Community . So many lessons learned !

Anonymous   |December.14.2013 I'm just so disappointed in the police. All of them. I know there are "good" ones. I know some. But they allow their VPOA to wage war on us citizens by voting or even choosing not to vote in the VPOA meetings. Matty couldn't do this crap if enough of them had the cajones to stand and say "Enough!" But they stay silent. And in their silence is complicity. And blame.

wharf rat   |December.14.2013 What we have here is a "failure to communicate" . VPOA , or a small contingent of the association decided to make a "stupid political statement" , in print .. This amateur solution to a very complex problem (City solvency) and the ability to fund the required Staffing for a functional Police Department . Is why the VPOA needs to be , eliminated as a recognised bargaining unit .. They have no Apprentishship program They don't invest in the Community , with the exception of slanted and stupid adds in the Times Herald .. They don't manage funds or contribute to insurance for fallen Officers as do many Police and Firefighters , benevolent Associations .. They are simply a Political Cabal .. So in respect to these shortcomings I propose that this "CLUB" is not a Labour organisation and has no Legal standing . Therefore the City of Vallejo should not participate in AUTO pay for VPOA dues !! in fact a FTE has a legal right to participate or not with a quasi labor association .. Untill a verified full vote of the working group is counted , IE: one vote for each Employee is recorded in anonymity by a third party can the position of Our sworn Officers be known Only when a unanimous vote is certified can anything have relevance . Are the actions of late actually those of the majority of the Vallejo Police Community or are they the political machinations of a few ..I think if We had some good dialogue from the Cops on the Street who are empowered by a progressive Cheif and are solution oriented We can purge the Nichellinie morass once and for all .

Anonymous   |December.14.2013 Two years ago when the council majority set up the citizens public safety committee to study improving public safety and creating a citizens police board, the cops and their spouses filled the chambers. Some of the cops wore their guns and a couple made a point to show theirs in an obvious intimidating way. As each of them spoke they wound themselves up higher and higher and the crowd started bordering on hysterical. It got scary in the audience and I finally just left and watched the rest at home. Of course Chief Dickelini was in the back of the room laughing and egging his boys on. Somehow I don't think Chief Kreins will allow that kind of behavior. I don't think the council would allow that again either. We the people should be able to go to our government house and feel safe. Especially safe from the police officers who are supposed to protect us!

Free Speech City Hall   |December.14.2013 Let's hope that there are not any firearms on display or otherwise in the public's chamber Monday night. It would be, to say the least, VERY bad form; bordering on outright intimidation. Lot's of cameras and video will hopefully be available. Of course, this advertisement in the paper is another form of intimidation. A shade more subtle perhaps, but nonetheless the veiled threat is there. "Pay us, or your town will devolve even further" is the implied action. Public service unions, along with their brethren over at BART, are very quickly wearing out their welcome in this economy. It's not effin' 1975 any more, okay?

Anonymous   |December.14.2013 I just did.

Anonymous   |December.14.2013 Tell that to the VPOA.

Anonymous   |December.14.2013 Come on folks, get a grip. These crimes are being committed by the welfare society. There is no politically correct way to slice and dice the marketing here. This is the result of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society.

Anonymous   |December.14.2013 They'd damn we'll better keep their guns at home on Monday night. This ain't Nichelini days and I'd bet neither Kreins or us residents will not stand for intimidation at this public meeting.

Paula Bauer   |December.14.2013 Another fine article, Mark. Good job.

Salty Dog   |December.14.2013 The VPOA IS a special class. They are the few bestowed with the legal right to use force in our civil society. All the more reason why these clowns who use fear tactics should be shown the door for their unethical tactics. Period.

silasbarnabe   |December.14.2013 @WR Who is the idiot that posted that add? Despite the stupidity of the bald fat man in the hula shirt, and HWSNBN, only Matty Mustard could be so ignorant to post such garbage.

wharf rat   |December.14.2013 How embarrassing! who is the idiot that prepared that add ?. Law enforcement PROFESIONALS know that homicide is not a useful indicator of actual crime levels . This is nothing but scare tactics and thuggery , blatant and amateur , something one would expect from a Child, to have this playground mentality displayed by a once proud Police Department is an embarrassment to our whole City . After viewing this add it is apparent we are over paying this group by at least 40% ,when the Police don't even understand basic crime stats and have the gall to foist this crap off on the Community they are supposed to serve, it really makes one wonder why we pay them more than other employee groups .

Enough   |December.14.2013 I just don't get it; have not for years. We pay $200K per officer when you add up all benefits and CalPERS contributions and we cannot afford that salary per officer and a staff over 110 sworn officers. Any officer who is able to retire under the current contract (with all the lucrative benefits and cash out of sick leave) has done so, depleting the department. Our police dept. has been top heavy for years because Nichelini top loaded the dept. with laterals with only 10 years left before retirement or less, so since 2008, we have had an exodus of a 1/4 of our force based on retirement. Granted, many left without retirement when the city filed BK, but the large exodus were from those who were able to retire, or soon as they hit that mark, did. But I'd be interested in finding out since we got out of BK in 2011, how many officers have quit - not retired, or left based on workers comp/disability. (though I'd like those numbers too) The VPOA's antics are hurting us finding people to hire because who wants to join the ranks of department that cannot get a contract signed? People want stability and want to know what the salaries/steps will be. We have been unable to do that for over 2 years. Three employee groups IBEW, IAFF and CAMP, have accepted the the terms negotiated with the CIty. Why are the VPOA so special? If we got the salaries and benefits to an amount we can afford, then most likely we would end up with a long term contract... stability, and we can hire more officers based on stable contract and actually known $$$ and $$$ the city can afford. We need to grow our force, and to do that, we need to be able to actually pay ... LONG TERM.. salaries we can afford. Come on, guys and gals of the VPOA. Join the CITY in FIXING the city. My respect for the VPOA has evaporated with this last ad.

Doug   |December.14.2013 What a sad day for Vallejo! The VPOA is losing respect, destroying what should be a proud and honorable Dept! Greed is SO ugly, its not the Council that is the problem, it is the GREED of the VPOA that is without hesitation dividing this community further apart! If you ever wondered what the True Colors of the VPOA are, here they are, quite boldly stated for all to see! You have every right to fight for what you think is a fair contract, but when you again manipulate the public with fear tactics, you have again gone too far. If you need more money, please pack your bags and go somewhere else, we don't have the money, what don't you understand? Vallejo needs a PD that has Dignity and respect for the Community, your attempt at dividing this community clearly shows your greed, "you" are destroying our City! I am embarrassed for our PD, you willingly allow us to be pitted against one another! This is NO way to resolve concerns! I will not bite my tongue as you attempt to hold our City HOSTAGE! God help us, what a sad day! See you Monday Nite!

Anonymous   |December.14.2013 Since they're doing a terrible job now, I say fire all of those gold-played baby boomers and hire some dedicated, affordable milleniums. The milleniums may not have as much experience but they're in much better shape, and if there's "safety in numbers" just having a lot more, cheaper cops will make us safer. FIRE THE BABY BOOMERS!

Prove it   |December.14.2013 I never realized that the Vallejo Police were so special that they could prevent murders. So of the most violent crime in Vallejo occurred in the mid 1990 when Staffing was very high. How does creating a contract that Vallejo can afford make things worse? The savings will be used to hire more cops. If we have to keep the current contract we will have fewer cops. Is Matt Mustard and his bullies going to increase crime rates by not doing their job. This ad is another example of how Matt Mustard and his thugs have lost touch with the citizens.

Really   |December.14.2013 Pathetic PAC propaganda. And I'm not sure the 2013 number of 78 is correct; I thought with new hires we had about 85 or 86 officers at this point, with a budget to allow the hiring up to 106 or 110 officers.

know vallejo   |December.14.2013 the oz may not have been funded by the unions but he was front and center as an endorser for jump start and their slate. i'm told he was instrumental in the formation of the PAC.

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